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Its still the case today, its just that America has gotten louder about its academic accomplishments being a key factor in economic success. Your average Germa
by aa-jv 11mo ago
Its still the case today, its just that America has gotten louder about its academic accomplishments being a key factor in economic success.
Your average German/Austrian universities have plenty of ex-pat Americans, there for precisely the fact that the education systems have such variety between the two nations. They are understated and under-represented in mainstream culture about academia, but for sure there are still Americans making the pilgrimage to older universities, for the diversity and strengths they offer.
- inglor_cz 11mo agoNevertheless, when it comes to top research, Germany has become a shadow of its former self. No way around it. This graph speaks volumes. Prior to Nazism, Germans would collect as many science Nobel Prizes as the British, the French and the Americans together. https://preview.redd.it/nobel-prizes-by-country-manually-updated-with-affiliated-v0-zzk9inh1bebf1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=4e3ede143c7ae5285a3ca2808fd49a04d5459213 https://preview.redd.it/nobel-prizes-by-country-manually-upd...
- aa-jv 11mo agoWhile I agree with you that Germany doesn't have the intellectual prowess it once may have had, I don't think you can consider the Nobel prize a valid metric, personally. The Nobel prize has subverted itself many times over. While German academia was rebuilding itself, American academia was chasing clout - one side effect being that the Nobel prize is more of a carnival attraction than an academic accomplishment.
- IAmBroom 11mo agoJudging validity of all Nobel prizes by something that isn't even an actual Nobel prize is a perverse logic.
- aa-jv 11mo ago> Germans would collect as many science Nobel Prizes as the British, The person I responded to made this claim, not me. I don't personally rate the Nobel prize very highly at all, as a metric.
- nephihaha 11mo agoAmerica buys a lot of people in for its universities today, although of course there are bright Americans. German universities today are stricter and more rigorous in general than American ones. I think the USA, like the UK, does tend to use name recognition. Oxford and Cambridge use interviews to filter out people, but are disproportionately represented in power structures.