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If a novel you wrote 15 years ago becomes hugely successful you can capitalize with a sequel. Maybe GRRM would have written them a little faster in that univers
by raldi 10mo ago
If a novel you wrote 15 years ago becomes hugely successful you can capitalize with a sequel. Maybe GRRM would have written them a little faster in that universe.
- actionfromafar 10mo agoOr you can't because 57 new sequels were published the week before.
- StopDisinfo910 10mo agoHave you noticed how the abundance of fan fictions have completely killed famous book series? Me neither.
- nkrisc 10mo agoWhat fan fiction?
- hnben 10mo agoexactly.
- nkrisc 10mo agoBecause copyright lasts longer than 14 years.
- bryanrasmussen 10mo agoas much as I think the copyright 14 years thing is one of the more contemptible ideas well to do programmers have on how to improve things by making things worse for people who make less money, I don't think copyright is longer than 14 years is the only reason works by the original author of a series earns more money than fan fiction.
- fragmede 10mo agoThis is not an endorsement of the work, but there's Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality. I hear 50 Shades of Gray is another fanfic that went mainstream. A book nerd could come up with a much longer list, but I know there's a ton more illegal unlicensed! Harry Potter fan fic.
- cool_dude85 10mo ago50 Shades is decidedly not a fanfic for the exact reason that it couldn't be sold as one.
- bentley 10mo agoQuoting Wikipedia: “The Fifty Shades trilogy was developed from a Twilight fan fiction series originally titled Master of the Universe and published by [E. L.] James episodically on fan fiction websites under the pen name ‘Snowqueen Icedragon’.”
- cool_dude85 10mo agoExactly so. It was not able to be published in its initial state as a Twilight fanfic due to copyright and had to be re-worked so as not to infringe.
- tialaramex 10mo agoJust in case you're actually unaware, the Organization for Transformative Works https://archiveofourown.org/ https://archiveofourown.org/ Archive Of Our Own (typically shortened to AO3) is where a tremendous amount of such fiction is archived.
- nkrisc 10mo agoSo where can a mainstream consumer purchase or borrow a paperback edition of those stories?
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- InfiniteRand 10mo agoI mean https://www.printingcenterusa.com/printing/book-printing https://www.printingcenterusa.com/printing/book-printing
- nkrisc 10mo agoSomeone who buys books at Barnes & Noble is not going to print online fan fiction on demand. If you think this is something a “mainstream consumer” would do, I think you’re very out of touch with the average person.
- thfuran 10mo agoIsn’t reading stuff on the internet more mainstream than buying things at Barnes and Noble? Not necessarily those specific things, but the notion that something needs to be physically available at a bookstore to be relevant is at best dated.
- nkrisc 10mo agoIf you spend a lot of time online, it would certainly seem that way.
- actionfromafar 10mo agoNo, but I think it might happen if copyright lapsed in 14 years.
- Jolter 10mo agoBut it would only lapse after 28, assuming the author is still interested in pursuing it. 28 years is plenty, IMO.
- wongarsu 10mo agoPresumably people would consider a Song of Ice and Fire sequel by GRRM to be "official" and everything else "fanfiction", even if the fanfiction manages to appear in bookstores
- joquarky 10mo ago*28 years, unless you were not invested enough in your work to bother renewing it.
- Jolter 10mo agoFor a novel of middling success, like Game of Thrones ca 2004, as is the argument here? Why would anyone write and publish that sequel? Nobody would buy it if it was not from the original author.
- Aloisius 10mo agoI mean, that sounds like a win from the point of view of copyright. The whole purpose of copyright is to promote the creation of new works after all. In GRRM's case, the more successful his works became, the less he wrote which is kind of the opposite of what copyright was intended to do.
- kshacker 10mo agoHow do the sequels affect this? I read this once more in the same discussion so I am curious. Let's assume the 1st book goes public. I should be able to use those characters and their known relationship in any which way, no? What's wrong with that, copyright wise?