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The laptops waking up in the backpack until the thermal security triggers or the battery is empty is a Microsoft Windows thing.

freehorse 11mo ago
Ime turning windows laptops off is really hard. You tell them to shutdown and they restart for some reason, and it does not seem to be update related because it happens with laptops completely offline too. So you may think that you have shut them down, close the lid, but actually they reboot and when you get to them again they are dead. This happens with some dell laptops but I do not think it is just them. Not all the time but very randomly.
- baiwl 11mo ago
  To shut Windows down, press Win+R to see the Run dialog and then type shutdown /s /t 0
- vitaliyf 11mo ago
  Apparently "update and shutdown does a restart instead" was very recently finally fixed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45797934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45797934
- tmerc 11mo ago
  I haven't found a way to tell Windows 10 to hibernate other than making that the power button action in power options. Maybe because it's a laptop but it starts immediately after hibernating and your have to hold the power button to fully turn it off. This works and skips any forced updates Windows wants to do. It is very janky and I think ms does it to make skipping updates harder.
olejorgenb 11mo ago
Not really - my Dell Precision (Ubuntu Certified even) frequently have problems going to sleep. To be fair - technically it doesn't wake up in the backpack - it fails to sleep in the first place. But if you don't pay attention you wont notice the failure so I'd say that's very close to just as bad.
trashface 11mo ago
I've seen it on my system 76 (clevo) laptop from 2019 on linux, and on windows on the same hardware. I think its a firmware power state design bug. I have a lenovo from 2012 that never had this problem.
- red-iron-pine 11mo ago
  same manufacturer and vintage (maybe 2020?), and same problem.

freehorse 11mo ago

Ime turning windows laptops off is really hard. You tell them to shutdown and they restart for some reason, and it does not seem to be update related because it happens with laptops completely offline too. So you may think that you have shut them down, close the lid, but actually they reboot and when you get to them again they are dead. This happens with some dell laptops but I do not think it is just them. Not all the time but very randomly.

baiwl 11mo ago
To shut Windows down, press Win+R to see the Run dialog and then type shutdown /s /t 0
vitaliyf 11mo ago
Apparently "update and shutdown does a restart instead" was very recently finally fixed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45797934 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45797934
tmerc 11mo ago
I haven't found a way to tell Windows 10 to hibernate other than making that the power button action in power options. Maybe because it's a laptop but it starts immediately after hibernating and your have to hold the power button to fully turn it off. This works and skips any forced updates Windows wants to do. It is very janky and I think ms does it to make skipping updates harder.

olejorgenb 11mo ago

Not really - my Dell Precision (Ubuntu Certified even) frequently have problems going to sleep. To be fair - technically it doesn't wake up in the backpack - it fails to sleep in the first place. But if you don't pay attention you wont notice the failure so I'd say that's very close to just as bad.

trashface 11mo ago

I've seen it on my system 76 (clevo) laptop from 2019 on linux, and on windows on the same hardware. I think its a firmware power state design bug. I have a lenovo from 2012 that never had this problem.

red-iron-pine 11mo ago
same manufacturer and vintage (maybe 2020?), and same problem.