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I need things I don’t want to use to not appear in the UI. I don’t fill my house with tools and products I don’t want and I’m not willing to have them on my co

by barnabee 11mo ago

I need things I don’t want to use to not appear in the UI. I don’t fill my house with tools and products I don’t want and I’m not willing to have them on my computer screen either.

arp242 11mo ago
Different people want different features. Insisting Firefox never shows you anything you personally don't use is a bizarre unworkable demand.
- bawolff 11mo ago
  Why not? That is how firefox got popular in the first place. Mozilla sea monkey was bloated, firefox cut out all the crap nobody wanted.
- barnabee 11mo ago
  I insist all software I regularly use is configurable (and with very few exceptions, it is), why should Firefox be different?
jjpones 11mo ago
> I need things I don’t want to use to not appear in the UI. Couldn't have said it better myself. Similarly, current youtube is unusable without element blocking and custom CSS editing. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to remove UI elements from Firefox, no?
- barnabee 11mo ago
  You can with userStyles.css
Krssst 11mo ago
It does not show up in the UI once disabled, does not re-enable again and does not pester the user into enabling it again as proprietary software often does. I can understand criticism on the development time that may have been better spent, but less criticism against the existence of something that is fairly easily disabled and not user-hostile in intent. I disabled the AI stuff immediately on my side (through the regular UI, not about:config settings) and never saw anything AI-related in Firefox afterwards. It's worrying seeing Firefox getting so much more criticism than all the more user-hostile browsers that end up benefiting from such somewhat unwarranted criticism against the most popular non-hostile browser.
- barnabee 11mo ago
  My recollection is that without the about:config changes there were still unwanted bits of UI like menu items. If that’s fixed then great. As it is I have switched to Zen as it appears more clearly user-aligned and works better for me as a result of their improvements and UI tweaks.

I need things I don’t want to use to not appear in the UI. I don’t fill my house with tools and products I don’t want and I’m not willing to have them on my computer screen either.

arp242 11mo ago

Different people want different features. Insisting Firefox never shows you anything you personally don't use is a bizarre unworkable demand.

bawolff 11mo ago
Why not? That is how firefox got popular in the first place. Mozilla sea monkey was bloated, firefox cut out all the crap nobody wanted.
barnabee 11mo ago
I insist all software I regularly use is configurable (and with very few exceptions, it is), why should Firefox be different?

jjpones 11mo ago

> I need things I don’t want to use to not appear in the UI. Couldn't have said it better myself. Similarly, current youtube is unusable without element blocking and custom CSS editing. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to remove UI elements from Firefox, no?

barnabee 11mo ago
You can with userStyles.css

Krssst 11mo ago

It does not show up in the UI once disabled, does not re-enable again and does not pester the user into enabling it again as proprietary software often does. I can understand criticism on the development time that may have been better spent, but less criticism against the existence of something that is fairly easily disabled and not user-hostile in intent. I disabled the AI stuff immediately on my side (through the regular UI, not about:config settings) and never saw anything AI-related in Firefox afterwards. It's worrying seeing Firefox getting so much more criticism than all the more user-hostile browsers that end up benefiting from such somewhat unwarranted criticism against the most popular non-hostile browser.

barnabee 11mo ago
My recollection is that without the about:config changes there were still unwanted bits of UI like menu items. If that’s fixed then great. As it is I have switched to Zen as it appears more clearly user-aligned and works better for me as a result of their improvements and UI tweaks.