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No… Nobody I work for will touch these models. The fear is real that they have been poisoned or have some underlying bomb. Plus y’know, they’re produced by Chin
by hhh 11mo ago
No… Nobody I work for will touch these models. The fear is real that they have been poisoned or have some underlying bomb. Plus y’know, they’re produced by China, so they would never make it past a review board in most mega enterprises IME.
- tokioyoyo 11mo agoPeople say that, but everyone, including enterprises, are constantly buying Chinese tech one way or another because of cost/quality ratio. There’s a tipping point in any excel file where risks don’t make sense, if the cost is 20x for the same quality. Of course you’ll always have exceptions (government, military and etc.), but for private, winner will take it all.
- raw_anon_1111 11mo agoWhat Chinese built infrastructure tech where information can be exfiltrated or cause any real damage are American companies buying? Chinese communication tech is for the most part not allowed in any American technology.
- oceanplexian 11mo ago80% of the parts in iPhones are manufactured in China, and they have completely and utterly dominated in Enterprise (Ever heard of someone using a Blackberry in 2025? Me neither.) so there’s one example.
- raw_anon_1111 11mo agoThe software is made by Apple. Hardware can’t magically intercept communications and the manufacturing is done mostly in Taiwan. If Apple doesn’t have a process to protect its operating system from supply chain attacks, it would be derelict
- necovek 11mo agoHardware can do any "magic" software can, which should be obvious since software runs on it. It's just not as cost-effective to modify it after shipping, which is why the tech sector is moving to more sw less hw (simplified, ofc, there are other reasons).
- contrarian1234 11mo agoThe xenaphobia is still very much there. Chinese tech is sanitized through Taiwanese middlemen (Foxconn, Asus, Acer etc). If you try to use Chinese tech or funding directly you will have a lot of pushback from VCs, financial institutions and business partners. China is the boogieman
- baq 11mo agoit is many things, but not xenophobia.
- cherioo 11mo agoThat conversation probably gets easier if and when company when $100+M on AI. Companies just need to get to the “if” part first. That or they wash their hand by using a reseller that can use whatever it wants under the hood.
- deaux 11mo agoFor what it's worth, this is complete insanity when practically every mega enterprises' hardware is largely Made in China.
- raw_anon_1111 11mo agoEnterprise hardware isn’t the issue. It’s the software. How much enterprise hardware is running with Chinese software? The US basically bans any hardware with Chinese software that can disrupt infrastructure.
- nylonstrung 11mo agoTons of routers, modems, embedded, are running Chinese software
- adrian_b 11mo agoBackdoors in software are much easier to discover than backdoors in hardware. Any kind of hardware that is somehow connected to the wired or wireless communication interfaces is much more dangerous than any software. Backdoors embedded in such hardware devices may be impossible to identify before being activated by the reception of some "magic" signals from outside.
- vitaflo 11mo agoI work at a F50 company and Deepseek is one of the model that has been approved for use. Took them a bit to get it all in place but it's certainly being used in Megacorps.