Most if them still offer laptops with memory slots, so at least for individuals it's quite easy to upgrade (companys often don't upgrade, labor is more expensiv

Most if them still offer laptops with memory slots, so at least for individuals it's quite easy to upgrade (companys often don't upgrade, labor is more expensive then bto). The thinner devices often have onboard memory, but even there it's not Apple-bad. For example Lenovo US store. Thinkpad X1 carbon has an i5+16gb as base, and i7+32gb for +289$. P15s (2x sodimm) comes with 16gb in base, 32/64gb is +199/399$. Completely reasonable.