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And the employees most likely to quit will be ones with responsibilities that make it difficult to do the commute 5 days a week - kids to pick up from daycare,
by paxys 11mo ago
And the employees most likely to quit will be ones with responsibilities that make it difficult to do the commute 5 days a week - kids to pick up from daycare, health issues to manage, a social life in the evenings, travel plans - basically the exact category that a company like Meta would want to replace with a younger, more exploitable bunch.
- almost_usual 11mo agoNo point in quitting, reduce workload. If leadership needs to manage folks out make them do the work and collect a paycheck while it happens.
- Nextgrid 11mo agoYeah I don't get people who quit when RTO or unreasonable changes are made. Quitting makes it easy for them and means they stop paying you now. Letting them fire you means at worst you end up with the same outcome, at best you call their bluff and get paid a few months more (or forever).
- array_key_first 11mo agoYeah but RTO takes real time and money. Sure you can earn a paycheck, but if you're commuting 2 hours a day total, you're still losing those 2 hours until they fire you. And that kind of stinks. And that's assuming you don't need to move. Moving for a job you hate is the worst.
- pavel_lishin 11mo agoI think the suggestion is just ignoring the RTO mandate and continuing to work remote, until they fire you for insubordination.
- wrxd 11mo agoReduce workload, get in a bit later and go home a bit earlier. Avoid attending meetings involving people dialling in from a different office (that’s not in person collaboration, so it’s worthless work. Sorry, I don’t make the rules) and be present at the meeting (keeping the chair warm it’s all it counts after all) while browsing HN in the ones you really cannot get out of it.
- JoshTriplett 11mo ago> And the employees most likely to quit will be ones with responsibilities that make it difficult to do the commute 5 days a week Or senior people who have a dozen offers waiting in their inbox that they've neglected responding to because they're reasonably happy where they are...until the prospect of commuting.
- tayo42 11mo agoThat's not how the job market is right now. There's like 5 companies in the world that can compete on compensation while allowing remote work with meta.
- subw00f 11mo agoI would take a lower comp for remote work and a better work environment. They will never pay me the amount that would make me choose 2h in traffic everyday instead of having enough time to cook breakfast to my family, take my kids to school, have lunch with my wife, etc.
- rcbdev 11mo agoEvery time I hear U.S. commute times, I keep thinking they must be grossly overstated. How is your infrastructure so inadequate for... living?
- parliament32 11mo ago[flagged]
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- carlm42 11mo agoIt's called a work-life balance. I know, crazy idea.
- parliament32 11mo ago[flagged]
- jfindper 11mo ago>Covid was fun, I get it, but that was a long time ago man. I don't understand what you gain from trying to be super abrasive on a forum. Is it fun?
- baiwl 11mo agoThe "I know, crazy idea." from the parent comment is even more abrasive.
- jfindper 11mo agoCalling out every abrasive comment would take more effort than I'm willing to expend, and would itself be pretty abrasive. So I picked the comment where they called Covid (the event where many people died, had their businesses ruined, etc.) "fun" over the one that mentioned work-life balance.
- carlm42 11mo agoThe person you're replying to asked if it was fun. Consider that my sarcasm was meant to be sort of tongue in cheek and not incredibly serious, which is a very different kind of tone from other comments in this chain.