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> the change applies to employees in US offices with assigned desks and is part of a broader push to make Instagram "more nimble and creative" as competition in

> the change applies to employees in US offices with assigned desks and is part of a broader push to make Instagram "more nimble and creative" as competition intensifies. I don't think RTO or fewer meetings is going to reverse or even slow Instagram's slide down the enshittification chute. I recently returned to the app to connect with some friends and local communities, but the density of ads and dark patterns is pushing me away. IMO Instagram and Facebook in their twilight (which will still last another decade or so), where the path forward has more to due with extracting the remaining value from their existing users rather than outcompeting the alternatives.

trollbridge 10mo ago
I’m actually grateful I don’t need to worry about marketing via Instagram anymore.
- jrjeksjd8d 10mo ago
  I'm shutting down my retail business and being able to delete Instagram is a huge win.
RankingMember 10mo ago
> I don't think RTO or fewer meetings is going to reverse or even slow Instagram's slide down the enshittification chute. In my view it's been well down that chute since shortly after its acquisition by Facebook. Facebook bought them as a hedge as young people left the FB platform and, for a time, it's worked to keep users under the Meta umbrella, but as with everything Zucc touches, the end-user experience has been in a state of steady degradation.
- sunaookami 10mo ago
  It's also impressive how fast Zuckerberg ruined Threads, does anyone still uses this? Does it still keep reverting to the algorithmic timeline?
  - RankingMember 10mo ago
    Ha, I completely forgot about it already- that's how quickly it became irrelevant.
    - SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
      I’d like a retrospective on “if you don’t like what Twitter is doing, you can build your own”… because it seems network effects are real, despite Facebook money.
      - Nextgrid 10mo ago
        It seems they did like what Twitter was doing, because it's the same thing with the same problems. No wonder nobody uses it, why use a knockoff when the real thing is free?
        SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
        Is Facebook/Threads still censoring conservatives and Covid policy and vaccine skeptics at the request of the Biden Admin?
    - mmahd7456 10mo ago
      The only reason I don't forget it is because they advertise on Instagram.
  - Traubenfuchs 10mo ago
    It‘s still being pushed via… "ads“ in between stories or posts where you see a sneak peek of a Threads post you might like.
  - deleted 10mo ago
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k12sosse 10mo ago
In Canada meta pushed back (by not letting you link to or summarize recognized free press news sites) due to laws designed to encourage sharing revenue with news organizations for copying their content and posting it without their consent. The result has been a total vacuum of truth, and the platform is literally a anti-vax, agarthan racists wet dream when you open it up as a new user. It's ripe for replacement. I can't believe it's lasted this long.
- loeg 10mo ago
  > laws designed to encourage sharing revenue with news organizations for copying their content By “encourage” and “copying,” you mean “require” and “linking” respectively. These second order effects were entirely predictable before the legislation was passed.
  - Marsymars 10mo ago
    Is meta less of a cesspool in other countries?
- defrost 10mo ago
  > agarthan racists wet dream That one slipped my by in recent years, I'm not keeping up with the rebranding of rocks the nazi bars keep hiding under. ~ https://felixonline.co.uk/articles/slurs-hatred-and-nazi-ufos-what-really-hides-beneath-imperials-popular-agarthan-society/ https://felixonline.co.uk/articles/slurs-hatred-and-nazi-ufo... I'm not sure the self description as "Light hearted, mostly satirical Nazi white supremacist content not to be taken seriously" really hides the moustache.
- stephen_g 10mo ago
  As much as I dislike Meta, these laws are trash - as I understand it the Canadian law was based on the one we have here in Australia, which explicitly defines publishing a link to an article on a news site as being exactly the same (for the purposes of the law) as copying and displaying an entire article. Then the supporters of the law said Facebook was "using" the news content by linking to a news site, as if they were actually displaying whole articles! Meta generally sucks but these laws (and the people calling for them) sucked just as much.
LikesPwsh 10mo ago
The stated purpose of RTO may be more-nimble-whatever. In practice it makes more sense if you always assume the intended purpose is to thinly veil constructive dismissal.

trollbridge 10mo ago

I’m actually grateful I don’t need to worry about marketing via Instagram anymore.

jrjeksjd8d 10mo ago
I'm shutting down my retail business and being able to delete Instagram is a huge win.

RankingMember 10mo ago

> I don't think RTO or fewer meetings is going to reverse or even slow Instagram's slide down the enshittification chute. In my view it's been well down that chute since shortly after its acquisition by Facebook. Facebook bought them as a hedge as young people left the FB platform and, for a time, it's worked to keep users under the Meta umbrella, but as with everything Zucc touches, the end-user experience has been in a state of steady degradation.

sunaookami 10mo ago
It's also impressive how fast Zuckerberg ruined Threads, does anyone still uses this? Does it still keep reverting to the algorithmic timeline?
- RankingMember 10mo ago
  Ha, I completely forgot about it already- that's how quickly it became irrelevant.
  - SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
    I’d like a retrospective on “if you don’t like what Twitter is doing, you can build your own”… because it seems network effects are real, despite Facebook money.
    - Nextgrid 10mo ago
      It seems they did like what Twitter was doing, because it's the same thing with the same problems. No wonder nobody uses it, why use a knockoff when the real thing is free?
      - SV_BubbleTime 10mo ago
        Is Facebook/Threads still censoring conservatives and Covid policy and vaccine skeptics at the request of the Biden Admin?
  - mmahd7456 10mo ago
    The only reason I don't forget it is because they advertise on Instagram.
- Traubenfuchs 10mo ago
  It‘s still being pushed via… "ads“ in between stories or posts where you see a sneak peek of a Threads post you might like.
- deleted 10mo ago
  [deleted]

k12sosse 10mo ago

In Canada meta pushed back (by not letting you link to or summarize recognized free press news sites) due to laws designed to encourage sharing revenue with news organizations for copying their content and posting it without their consent. The result has been a total vacuum of truth, and the platform is literally a anti-vax, agarthan racists wet dream when you open it up as a new user. It's ripe for replacement. I can't believe it's lasted this long.

loeg 10mo ago
> laws designed to encourage sharing revenue with news organizations for copying their content By “encourage” and “copying,” you mean “require” and “linking” respectively. These second order effects were entirely predictable before the legislation was passed.
- Marsymars 10mo ago
  Is meta less of a cesspool in other countries?
defrost 10mo ago
> agarthan racists wet dream That one slipped my by in recent years, I'm not keeping up with the rebranding of rocks the nazi bars keep hiding under. ~ https://felixonline.co.uk/articles/slurs-hatred-and-nazi-ufos-what-really-hides-beneath-imperials-popular-agarthan-society/ https://felixonline.co.uk/articles/slurs-hatred-and-nazi-ufo... I'm not sure the self description as "Light hearted, mostly satirical Nazi white supremacist content not to be taken seriously" really hides the moustache.
stephen_g 10mo ago
As much as I dislike Meta, these laws are trash - as I understand it the Canadian law was based on the one we have here in Australia, which explicitly defines publishing a link to an article on a news site as being exactly the same (for the purposes of the law) as copying and displaying an entire article. Then the supporters of the law said Facebook was "using" the news content by linking to a news site, as if they were actually displaying whole articles! Meta generally sucks but these laws (and the people calling for them) sucked just as much.

LikesPwsh 10mo ago

The stated purpose of RTO may be more-nimble-whatever. In practice it makes more sense if you always assume the intended purpose is to thinly veil constructive dismissal.