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I suppose it's easier to blame ones self than to critique capitalism

by CursedSilicon 11mo ago

nh23423fefe 11mo ago
blaming capitalism is extremely useless
- tenacious_tuna 11mo ago
  it is if that's all people do, but I think it is a necessary step to realize that we do live under a system that encourages an amoral allocation of resources. If people only ever shrug that off or treat it as intractable it will never change. Some would argue that it cannot be changed, but I think that just means they haven't read history.
- AngryData 11mo ago
  Until it isn't because enough people realize it is inherently flawed and will never result in stability and they would rather die than relegate themselves, their children, and all their later generations, to indefinite servitude of an outdated economic system. Provided we don't kill our world first in our pursuit of endless profit growth.
  - bpt3 11mo ago
    I'd much rather deal with some less stability and have a lot more resources available to smooth out the bumps. The US has made the correct choice for the last 250 years, I hope people like you aren't able to derail it.
    - Apocalypse_666 11mo ago
      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1646771/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1646771/ Turns out, scientifically, it hasn't
    - tenacious_tuna 11mo ago
      > I'd much rather deal with some less stability and have a lot more resources This strategy works so long as you're in the group of people who do indeed have "more resources," but breaks down if you're marginalized in any way, or if you don't want to support the exploitative system.
    - AngryData 11mo ago
      That is what people always says about their current culture or economy or political system, even as they are on the very edge of systemic change. And quite frankly to me that just reads like an excuse to not do or try anything so people can kick the can down the road, benefiting themselves at the expense of many others both currently and in the future as things deteriorate further.
bpt3 11mo ago
Easier or not, it's certainly more productive to focus on what you can control. Also I'm open to critiques of capitalism, but the post I replied to didn't contain one.
ponector 11mo ago
I guess more people died of starvation under socialism than under capitalism.

I suppose it's easier to blame ones self than to critique capitalism

nh23423fefe 11mo ago

blaming capitalism is extremely useless

tenacious_tuna 11mo ago
it is if that's all people do, but I think it is a necessary step to realize that we do live under a system that encourages an amoral allocation of resources. If people only ever shrug that off or treat it as intractable it will never change. Some would argue that it cannot be changed, but I think that just means they haven't read history.
AngryData 11mo ago
Until it isn't because enough people realize it is inherently flawed and will never result in stability and they would rather die than relegate themselves, their children, and all their later generations, to indefinite servitude of an outdated economic system. Provided we don't kill our world first in our pursuit of endless profit growth.
- bpt3 11mo ago
  I'd much rather deal with some less stability and have a lot more resources available to smooth out the bumps. The US has made the correct choice for the last 250 years, I hope people like you aren't able to derail it.
  - Apocalypse_666 11mo ago
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1646771/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1646771/ Turns out, scientifically, it hasn't
  - tenacious_tuna 11mo ago
    > I'd much rather deal with some less stability and have a lot more resources This strategy works so long as you're in the group of people who do indeed have "more resources," but breaks down if you're marginalized in any way, or if you don't want to support the exploitative system.
  - AngryData 11mo ago
    That is what people always says about their current culture or economy or political system, even as they are on the very edge of systemic change. And quite frankly to me that just reads like an excuse to not do or try anything so people can kick the can down the road, benefiting themselves at the expense of many others both currently and in the future as things deteriorate further.

bpt3 11mo ago

Easier or not, it's certainly more productive to focus on what you can control. Also I'm open to critiques of capitalism, but the post I replied to didn't contain one.

ponector 11mo ago

I guess more people died of starvation under socialism than under capitalism.