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Well consumers care about the cost to them, and those we know. And deepseek is destroying everything in that department.
by rowanG077 11mo ago
Well consumers care about the cost to them, and those we know. And deepseek is destroying everything in that department.
- eru 11mo agoYes. Though we don't know for sure whether that's because they actually have lower costs, or whether it's just the Chinese taxpayer being forced to serve us a treat.
- chronogram 11mo agoThird party providers are still cheap though. The closed models are the ones where you can't see the real cost to running them.
- eru 11mo agoOh, I was mostly talking about the Chinese taxpayer footing the training bill. You are right that we can directly observe the cost of inference for open models.
- rescbr 11mo agoNot sure the Chinese taxpayer is footing the bill though - of course, it might not be net zero, there might be secondary effects, etc. A few days ago I read an article saying the Chinese utilities have a pricing structure that favors high-tech industries (say, an AI data center), making the difference by charging more the energy-intensive but less sophisticated industries (an aluminium smelter, for example). Admittedly, there are some advantages when you do central and long-term economic planning.