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Well I hope Shopify will have enough third party app developers in the future, now that they have moved everything to GraphQL and Remix (and killed all the othe

by tacker2000 10mo ago

Well I hope Shopify will have enough third party app developers in the future, now that they have moved everything to GraphQL and Remix (and killed all the other SDKs, like PHP for example), and now that we willhave a non-React Remix soon. Im pretty sure not many devs will switch to Remix just to work on Shopify Apps…

theturtletalks 10mo ago
I'm convinced Shopify only bought Remix since so many Shopify shops started using Next.js as an external storefront. Shopify realized their moat was dissapearing and if users could roll their own storefront, they were one step closer to rolling their own backend.
jadbox 10mo ago
GraphQL is such a pain. The SDKs are usually bloated. Debugging is a nightmare. Documentation on those APIs feeling adhoc. Outside of rare use-cases, I feel like 99% of the time GraphQL is engineering overkill than a simple resource-based REST interface.
- tacker2000 10mo ago
  Yea, i also dont like GraphQL. Why they needed to replace the good old REST interface, which was working perfectly, I will never understand. The tech team there seems to be making some shortsighted decisions in the last couple of years. Lets see if its going to bite them in the long run...
- 0x3f 10mo ago
  The funniest thing about GraphQL is when it's set up to only allow specific whitelisted queries. Incredible.
- no_wizard 10mo ago
  Automatic type a client generation that is extremely mature. Even when using OpenAPI it’s not as good GraphQL has validation built in, that’s another big one. For non complex and non-specialized types it validates against the schema quite well. Query caching is dead simple and quite good
- squidsoup 10mo ago
  Relay (and hence GraphQL) does solve some problems that have no immediate solution with REST - over/under fetching (data masking, fragment colocation in components) and automatic cache normalisation, but they are mostly problems you would only have at scale with disconnected frontend teams working on a product. The typesafety you get from a compiler and an automatically generated schema is nice too.

theturtletalks 10mo ago

I'm convinced Shopify only bought Remix since so many Shopify shops started using Next.js as an external storefront. Shopify realized their moat was dissapearing and if users could roll their own storefront, they were one step closer to rolling their own backend.

jadbox 10mo ago

GraphQL is such a pain. The SDKs are usually bloated. Debugging is a nightmare. Documentation on those APIs feeling adhoc. Outside of rare use-cases, I feel like 99% of the time GraphQL is engineering overkill than a simple resource-based REST interface.

tacker2000 10mo ago
Yea, i also dont like GraphQL. Why they needed to replace the good old REST interface, which was working perfectly, I will never understand. The tech team there seems to be making some shortsighted decisions in the last couple of years. Lets see if its going to bite them in the long run...
0x3f 10mo ago
The funniest thing about GraphQL is when it's set up to only allow specific whitelisted queries. Incredible.
no_wizard 10mo ago
Automatic type a client generation that is extremely mature. Even when using OpenAPI it’s not as good GraphQL has validation built in, that’s another big one. For non complex and non-specialized types it validates against the schema quite well. Query caching is dead simple and quite good
squidsoup 10mo ago
Relay (and hence GraphQL) does solve some problems that have no immediate solution with REST - over/under fetching (data masking, fragment colocation in components) and automatic cache normalisation, but they are mostly problems you would only have at scale with disconnected frontend teams working on a product. The typesafety you get from a compiler and an automatically generated schema is nice too.