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” how can you explain how megalithic 100-ton bricks structures were build by "primitives"” How can you explain we can today build structures that are 800m tall

by fsloth 10mo ago

” how can you explain how megalithic 100-ton bricks structures were build by "primitives"” How can you explain we can today build structures that are 800m tall or reroute rivers? Honestly, good ol human craftsmanship multiplied by available labour combined with ’basic’ geometry gets you really, really far. Industrial processes don’t require individual craftmanship because it does not scale with the speed and velocity required by markets and capital. Hence if you don’t actually care about building stuff you may think people unassisted with industrial machinery would be much more incapable than they really are. Humans are friggin talented. My opinion is that said structures are made by humans - a function of basic human psychology, times population, time surrounding available resources. You don’t need to add alien intelligences to the equation. And aliens per your description - not that interested really because it sounds more like religious conspiracy theories than something actually profoun. I’m pretty sure there’s life out there (i mean basic chemistry right) but I’m not so sure if it’s anything that would travel here intentionally or that it would have anything to say to us. I would be happy to be wrong! That’s the most interesting outcome always.

keepamovin 10mo ago
Yes! It's a fascinating conundrum. The giant megalithic "bricks" perfectly fitted and "moulded". Amazing craftsmenship. Entirely possible a forgotten technology was utilized by humans, or by something "before us". Antoher technological Earth-based civlization that wasn't "human" but the only traces of which remain are their megalithcs -- spooky, almost as if they knew they had to leave a stone legacy!
- Tadpole9181 10mo ago
  My God, they're rock rectangles cut with reasonable precision! They aren't millimeter replicas of each other. They float the stones from the quarry. Then prepare a plum surface using water, which lays perfectly flat at rest. They measured out a height with a replica-sized reed. Then they use taught twine to chalk the mark. Finally, you pour hard sand on the chalk line and use ropes back and forth in the groove to grind into the soft stone. It takes time, but it's a process so simple a child can learn it in a day. And then you apply the scale of having a city of adult laborers just as smart (though not as learned - there's a difference) doing it for years and years. Congrats, the rocks stack into a stable shape. And it was done multiple times and the history even recorded for some! Then, a long time goes by and all the structures built out of other material decay. All the structures not stacked in the most stable shape fall down. And all the structures not important and out-of-date with modern ventilation or security or needs are intentionally replaced. Now you only have the special building, which some folk weirdly worship or make conspiracies about. So many logical fallacies and biases go into this, it's all incredibly frustrating. And to see how this beautiful, connecting history we share is warped. To see simple human cleverness that proves how we are fundamentally the same as those who came before us, completely cast aside. It's just... GAH! The men and women who lived when those structures were built were just as intelligent as you! Your capacity for knowledge, your curiosity, your ingenuity - all in the same proportions! They were not "primitives" or "cave people". They were smart human beings who built cool shit!
  - cindyllm 10mo ago
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  - fsloth 10mo ago
    Exactly. The most astounding thing about the millenia old megastructures is the instant human connection it creates across the vast stretches of time. They are not alien. They are deeply familiar.

by fsloth 10mo ago

keepamovin 10mo ago

Yes! It's a fascinating conundrum. The giant megalithic "bricks" perfectly fitted and "moulded". Amazing craftsmenship. Entirely possible a forgotten technology was utilized by humans, or by something "before us". Antoher technological Earth-based civlization that wasn't "human" but the only traces of which remain are their megalithcs -- spooky, almost as if they knew they had to leave a stone legacy!

Tadpole9181 10mo ago
My God, they're rock rectangles cut with reasonable precision! They aren't millimeter replicas of each other. They float the stones from the quarry. Then prepare a plum surface using water, which lays perfectly flat at rest. They measured out a height with a replica-sized reed. Then they use taught twine to chalk the mark. Finally, you pour hard sand on the chalk line and use ropes back and forth in the groove to grind into the soft stone. It takes time, but it's a process so simple a child can learn it in a day. And then you apply the scale of having a city of adult laborers just as smart (though not as learned - there's a difference) doing it for years and years. Congrats, the rocks stack into a stable shape. And it was done multiple times and the history even recorded for some! Then, a long time goes by and all the structures built out of other material decay. All the structures not stacked in the most stable shape fall down. And all the structures not important and out-of-date with modern ventilation or security or needs are intentionally replaced. Now you only have the special building, which some folk weirdly worship or make conspiracies about. So many logical fallacies and biases go into this, it's all incredibly frustrating. And to see how this beautiful, connecting history we share is warped. To see simple human cleverness that proves how we are fundamentally the same as those who came before us, completely cast aside. It's just... GAH! The men and women who lived when those structures were built were just as intelligent as you! Your capacity for knowledge, your curiosity, your ingenuity - all in the same proportions! They were not "primitives" or "cave people". They were smart human beings who built cool shit!
- cindyllm 10mo ago
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- fsloth 10mo ago
  Exactly. The most astounding thing about the millenia old megastructures is the instant human connection it creates across the vast stretches of time. They are not alien. They are deeply familiar.