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I'm surprised this wasn't already the case for work phones?

by sidibe 10mo ago

palmotea 10mo ago
The article says it will allow "employers to intercept and archive RCS chats on work-managed devices." I can read that as applying personal phones hooked up to employer services. I think it's pretty common to force employees to consent allowing their employers to manage their device to get access to work email on it. I'd always assume that just mean they could remote wipe it, but maybe it's even worse than that.
- JohnFen 10mo ago
  > I think it's pretty common to force employees to consent allowing their employers to manage their device to get access to work email on it. Is it common? I've only been asked to do that once, and I declined. I explained that it's my policy to never use my personal equipment for work purposes or my work equipment for personal purposes. They provided me with a work phone to use, instead.
  - kaikai 10mo ago
    I’ve worked for multiple companies and only one demanded I enroll my personal phone in their device management. I pushed back in a public channel and they reconsidered the policy. I left shortly after so not sure where that landed. Everywhere else I’ve worked I’ve had slack/teams/email/pagerduty whatever on my personal device without issues. It hasn’t felt realistic to ask for a dedicated work device for that.
  - palmotea 10mo ago
    I don't know how common it is, but it's optional for me (at least). If I want access to work email/calendar/chat (which is convenient), I'd have to consent to some kind of device management. But personally, I've always said no, because years ago someone at my workplace fat-fingered a command and wiped all iPhones hooked up to company services (including employee-owned personal devices). I've always seen it as a risk to my data if not my privacy.
- nhubbard 10mo ago
  Since this is on Android, this policy should only apply to the version of the Messages app within the work profile, right? If it didn't and could access personal messages, that would be crossing a line. Reading the post makes it sound like this only happens on managed devices; whether that means "owned and provided by work", "within the confines of the work profile on a BYOD devices", or both, I'm not 100% sure.
lxgr 10mo ago
It’s been taking Google a minute to fully reinvent the wheel with their proprietary instant messaging solution du jour.

I'm surprised this wasn't already the case for work phones?

by sidibe 10mo ago

I'm surprised this wasn't already the case for work phones?

The article says it will allow "employers to intercept and archive RCS chats on work-managed devices." I can read that as applying personal phones hooked up to employer services. I think it's pretty common to force employees to consent allowing their employers to manage their device to get access to work email on it. I'd always assume that just mean they could remote wipe it, but maybe it's even worse than that.

JohnFen 10mo ago
> I think it's pretty common to force employees to consent allowing their employers to manage their device to get access to work email on it. Is it common? I've only been asked to do that once, and I declined. I explained that it's my policy to never use my personal equipment for work purposes or my work equipment for personal purposes. They provided me with a work phone to use, instead.
- kaikai 10mo ago
  I’ve worked for multiple companies and only one demanded I enroll my personal phone in their device management. I pushed back in a public channel and they reconsidered the policy. I left shortly after so not sure where that landed. Everywhere else I’ve worked I’ve had slack/teams/email/pagerduty whatever on my personal device without issues. It hasn’t felt realistic to ask for a dedicated work device for that.
- palmotea 10mo ago
  I don't know how common it is, but it's optional for me (at least). If I want access to work email/calendar/chat (which is convenient), I'd have to consent to some kind of device management. But personally, I've always said no, because years ago someone at my workplace fat-fingered a command and wiped all iPhones hooked up to company services (including employee-owned personal devices). I've always seen it as a risk to my data if not my privacy.
nhubbard 10mo ago
Since this is on Android, this policy should only apply to the version of the Messages app within the work profile, right? If it didn't and could access personal messages, that would be crossing a line. Reading the post makes it sound like this only happens on managed devices; whether that means "owned and provided by work", "within the confines of the work profile on a BYOD devices", or both, I'm not 100% sure.

lxgr 10mo ago

It’s been taking Google a minute to fully reinvent the wheel with their proprietary instant messaging solution du jour.