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Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was. As for JPEG XL, of course t

by bigbuppo 11mo ago

Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was. As for JPEG XL, of course they unkilled it. WEBP has been deprecated in favor of JPEG XL.

ryanmcbride 11mo ago
honestly hate webp so happy about this
- excusable 11mo ago
  I don't know much about webp. Just have checked the wiki, it looks nice. So for which reason you hate it?
  - majora2007 11mo ago
    I don't know much about webp other than you get about 50% savings in compression vs png/jpeg, but it does have some hard limits on sizes of images. It doesn't do well with webtoon reading formats (long strip format). Otherwise, I love webp and use it for all my comics/manga.
    - objectcode 11mo ago
      Even nowadays, webp seems to be good specifically for its lossless mode. It seems to create files that are substantially more efficient even when compared with advanced png encoders. For comics, png should probably be used over jpeg, so webp is likely indeed an upgrade, aside from compatibility. For photographs, jpeg has really been optimized without reducing compatibility, and also in another less compatible way (incompatible viewers can display it without erroring out, but the colors are wrong) and there's such an encoder in the JPEG XL repo.
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  - ryanmcbride 11mo ago
    It was mostly about compatibility but looks like photoshop supports it now so I guess I can now officially say I don't really care one way or the other.
lloydatkinson 11mo ago
Webp deprecated? According to what?
- lern_too_spel 11mo ago
  VP8 is in all major browsers due to WebRTC, and webp uses little more code than the VP8 keyframe decoder, so it also has baseline support and is unlikely to be deprecated any time soon. https://caniuse.com/?search=vp8 https://caniuse.com/?search=vp8 Similarly, AVIF uses little more code than the AV1 keyframe decoder, so since every browser supports AV1, every browser also supports AVIF.
- bigbuppo 11mo ago
  It's all arbitrary. WEBP is deprecated, just like GIF is deprecated.
dpark 11mo ago
I don’t think they actually said that about xslt at all. From what I saw they basically said usage is low enough that they do not care about it. Can you point to somewhere that Google or anyone else indicated that they would support xslt once there’s a secure, supported version?
LegionMammal978 11mo ago
> Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was. Who said this? I was never able to find any support among the browser devs for "keep XSLT with some more secure non-libxslt implementation".

ryanmcbride 11mo ago

honestly hate webp so happy about this

excusable 11mo ago
I don't know much about webp. Just have checked the wiki, it looks nice. So for which reason you hate it?
- majora2007 11mo ago
  I don't know much about webp other than you get about 50% savings in compression vs png/jpeg, but it does have some hard limits on sizes of images. It doesn't do well with webtoon reading formats (long strip format). Otherwise, I love webp and use it for all my comics/manga.
  - objectcode 11mo ago
    Even nowadays, webp seems to be good specifically for its lossless mode. It seems to create files that are substantially more efficient even when compared with advanced png encoders. For comics, png should probably be used over jpeg, so webp is likely indeed an upgrade, aside from compatibility. For photographs, jpeg has really been optimized without reducing compatibility, and also in another less compatible way (incompatible viewers can display it without erroring out, but the colors are wrong) and there's such an encoder in the JPEG XL repo.
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- ryanmcbride 11mo ago
  It was mostly about compatibility but looks like photoshop supports it now so I guess I can now officially say I don't really care one way or the other.

lloydatkinson 11mo ago

Webp deprecated? According to what?

lern_too_spel 11mo ago
VP8 is in all major browsers due to WebRTC, and webp uses little more code than the VP8 keyframe decoder, so it also has baseline support and is unlikely to be deprecated any time soon. https://caniuse.com/?search=vp8 https://caniuse.com/?search=vp8 Similarly, AVIF uses little more code than the AV1 keyframe decoder, so since every browser supports AV1, every browser also supports AVIF.
bigbuppo 11mo ago
It's all arbitrary. WEBP is deprecated, just like GIF is deprecated.

dpark 11mo ago

I don’t think they actually said that about xslt at all. From what I saw they basically said usage is low enough that they do not care about it. Can you point to somewhere that Google or anyone else indicated that they would support xslt once there’s a secure, supported version?

LegionMammal978 11mo ago

> Well, they said they would unkill xslt if someone would rewrite and maintain it so that it's not the abandonware horrorshow it was. Who said this? I was never able to find any support among the browser devs for "keep XSLT with some more secure non-libxslt implementation".