>Im btw not working for an ISP, I can see why you would take "online service provider" to mean an ISP, but I meant it to include SaaS and apps like whatsapp, g

>Im btw not working for an ISP, I can see why you would take "online service provider" to mean an ISP, but I meant it to include SaaS and apps like whatsapp, google, etc.. as well >Therefor the next time you argue that some security measure is just an CISO that doesn't really care about its users Oh I didn't mean to imply that, there's no doubt that IT admins that overimplement security policies care in general, the critique is not about motives, rather the efficiency. I don't argue that they don't care or even that they are wildly inefficient, just that they are suboptimal on this specific point by going overboard.