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What parent is saying is that what works is what will matter in the end. That which works better than something else will become the method that survives in com
by tjwebbnorfolk 11mo ago
What parent is saying is that what works is what will matter in the end. That which works better than something else will become the method that survives in competition.
You not liking something on purportedly "moral" grounds doesn't matter if it works better than something else.
- malfist 11mo agoOxycontin certainly worked, and the markets demanded more and more of it. Who are we to take a moral stand and limit everyone's access to opiates? We should just focus on making a profit since we're filling a "need"
- satvikpendem 11mo agoUsing LLMs doesn't kill people, I'm sure there are some exceptions like OpenAI's suicide that was in the news, but not to the degree of oxycontin.
- tinfoilhatter 11mo agoNot yet maybe... Once we factor in the environmental damage that generative AI, and all the data centers being built to power it, will inevitably cause - I think it will become increasingly difficult to make the assertion you just did.
- joquarky 11mo agoYou're using data centers to read and post comments here.
- wartywhoa23 11mo agoYou're entering a bridge and there's a road sign before it with a pictogram of a truck and a plaque below that reads "10t max". According to the logic of your argument, it's perfectly okay to drive a 360t BelAZ 75710 loaded to its full 450t capacity over that bridge just because it's a truck too.
- johnnyanmac 11mo ago>Using LLMs doesn't kill people Guess you mmissed the post where lawyers were submitting legal documents generated by LLM's. Or people taking medical advice and ending up with hyperbromium consumptions. Or the lawsuits around LLM's softly encouraging suicide. Or the general AI psychosis being studied. It's way past "some exceptions" at this point.
- satvikpendem 11mo agoBesides the suicide one, I don't know of any examples where that has actually killed someone. Someone could search on Google just the same and ignore their symptoms.
- johnnyanmac 11mo ago>I don't know of any examples where that has actually killed someone. You don't see how botched law case can't cost someone their life? Let's not wait until more die to reign this in. >Someone could search on Google just the same and ignore their symptoms. Yes, and it's not uncommon for websites or search engines to be sued. Millenia of laws exist for this exact purpose, so companies can't deflect bad things back to the people. If you want the benefits, you accept the consequences. Especially when you fail to put up guard rails.
- tjwebbnorfolk 11mo agoLLMs generate text. It is people who decide what to do with it. Removing all personal responsibility from this equation isn't going to solve anything.
- johnnyanmac 11mo ago>It is people who decide what to do with it. That argument is rather naive, given that millenia of law is meant to regulate and disincentivize behavior. "If people didn't get mad they wouldn't murder!" We've regulated public messages for decades, and for good reason. I'm not absolving them this time because they want to hide behind a chatbot. They have blood on their hands.
- tjwebbnorfolk 11mo agoYour comment is valid as a criticism of an "unfettered free market", but further proves my point that things that work will win.