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Dear Apple: Deleting your users’ apps without notification is rude and arrogant

14 points by neya 14y ago

lukeholder 14y ago
This is being angry at nothing. It was publicized. The google version of the youtube app is better for everyone including the user.
sxcurry 14y ago
I don't understand any of this diatribe. Various Apple vs Google business issues have been evident for months, and most people accept the fact that changes must be made. So Apple removes the YouTube App and you now download its replacement from the App Store. What's outrageous about that? Isn't everyone a little tired of these articles using words like "disaster", "outrageous" etc etc. It's just a phone that runs little apps, folks!
- batiudrami 14y ago
  It is removing features from a phone people have already bought. Sure, we know to just go to the App store and get the new one, but my parents definitely wouldn't. I sure am glad I don't work in telco any more and don't have to deal with customers complaining about it. It was bad enough when the Android Market switched to Google Play, even with a pop-up information screen when launching before the switch.
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jpxxx 14y ago
Dear Venturebeat, John Koetsier: I'm sorry I gave you clicks. Please accept this story flagging as an apology towards the greater discourse.
droithomme 14y ago
Came here to see the usual PR reps frantically posting their same old defenses of everything Apple. Wasn't disappointed! Deleting installed software without permission, notification, or explanation? Definitely not OK! Would never know that on any forum for discussion though where even the most obviously problematic Apple practice must be defended at any cost, and those who disagree silenced.
- onetwothreefour 14y ago
  If you understood what this article was whining about, you wouldn't have posted this pointless tirade against anyone who likes Apple products.
- mcmillion 14y ago
  I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't actually read the article.
37prime 14y ago
About the removal of YouTube app from iOS 6 1. This is already reported during the beta days. NDA being only a 3 capital letters and all. 2. Google submitted YouTube app to iTunes App Store, and it was released on September 11th, 2012. 3. John Koetsier, a writer for VentureBeat that also consulted on technology, social media, and marketing for many years; apparently was either living under a rock since September 11th, 2012 or just whoring for page hit. 4. Did I mention page hit whoring?
nscheffey 14y ago
"Imagine that this was your Mac (or your PC). And, in an upgrade to a new version of the operating system, Apple or Microsoft deleted applications on your device. Instead of PhotoShop, you now get NewAwesomeImageEditor, and instead of Skype, you get … nothing. This is outrageous." Yes, imagine. "Previously obvious applications like Windows Calendar and Windows Contacts are now gone for good. You can get back much of the functionality from these apps, as it turns out, but via a download-only application called Windows Live Mail. What?" - http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/windows-7-review-part-10-bundled-applications http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/windows-7-revi...
RGoldmann 14y ago
Don't you have to agree with some EULA and ToS with Apple when connecting your iPhone? And doesn't these agreements more or less state that Apple can do whatever they please and you have to like it?

14 points by neya 14y ago

This is being angry at nothing. It was publicized. The google version of the youtube app is better for everyone including the user.

sxcurry 14y ago

I don't understand any of this diatribe. Various Apple vs Google business issues have been evident for months, and most people accept the fact that changes must be made. So Apple removes the YouTube App and you now download its replacement from the App Store. What's outrageous about that? Isn't everyone a little tired of these articles using words like "disaster", "outrageous" etc etc. It's just a phone that runs little apps, folks!

batiudrami 14y ago
It is removing features from a phone people have already bought. Sure, we know to just go to the App store and get the new one, but my parents definitely wouldn't. I sure am glad I don't work in telco any more and don't have to deal with customers complaining about it. It was bad enough when the Android Market switched to Google Play, even with a pop-up information screen when launching before the switch.

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jpxxx 14y ago

Dear Venturebeat, John Koetsier: I'm sorry I gave you clicks. Please accept this story flagging as an apology towards the greater discourse.

droithomme 14y ago

Came here to see the usual PR reps frantically posting their same old defenses of everything Apple. Wasn't disappointed! Deleting installed software without permission, notification, or explanation? Definitely not OK! Would never know that on any forum for discussion though where even the most obviously problematic Apple practice must be defended at any cost, and those who disagree silenced.

onetwothreefour 14y ago
If you understood what this article was whining about, you wouldn't have posted this pointless tirade against anyone who likes Apple products.
mcmillion 14y ago
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't actually read the article.

37prime 14y ago

About the removal of YouTube app from iOS 6 1. This is already reported during the beta days. NDA being only a 3 capital letters and all. 2. Google submitted YouTube app to iTunes App Store, and it was released on September 11th, 2012. 3. John Koetsier, a writer for VentureBeat that also consulted on technology, social media, and marketing for many years; apparently was either living under a rock since September 11th, 2012 or just whoring for page hit. 4. Did I mention page hit whoring?

nscheffey 14y ago

"Imagine that this was your Mac (or your PC). And, in an upgrade to a new version of the operating system, Apple or Microsoft deleted applications on your device. Instead of PhotoShop, you now get NewAwesomeImageEditor, and instead of Skype, you get … nothing. This is outrageous." Yes, imagine. "Previously obvious applications like Windows Calendar and Windows Contacts are now gone for good. You can get back much of the functionality from these apps, as it turns out, but via a download-only application called Windows Live Mail. What?" - http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/windows-7-review-part-10-bundled-applications http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/windows-7-revi...

RGoldmann 14y ago

Don't you have to agree with some EULA and ToS with Apple when connecting your iPhone? And doesn't these agreements more or less state that Apple can do whatever they please and you have to like it?