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Your comment kinda proves the article's point, don't you think? I mean, obviously your comment doesn't constitute a threat or harassment, but it does demonstrat

by konmok 11mo ago

Your comment kinda proves the article's point, don't you think? I mean, obviously your comment doesn't constitute a threat or harassment, but it does demonstrate the weird double standard and unbalanced scrutiny that the article describes.

Arnt 11mo ago
No double standard. On one hand, I think that people should check before publication and not publish shit. That goes for posting on the internet, and also about publishing books. Separately and orthogonally, I think that someone who doesn't check before publication and publishes shit should refrain from complaining about other people's shit, even though other people's shit really is shit.
- konmok 11mo ago
  Sure, fine. I'm just highlighting that you chose to call out Karen Hao for her mistake (which she admitted and corrected), but not Will MacAskill or any of the other big EA names that have made egregious and dishonest claims. If it's not a double standard, Will also ought to be silent on this subject, right? That's what I mean by unbalanced scrutiny.
  - Arnt 10mo ago
    IMNSHO she didn't admit and correct the mistake — yet. She admitted one mistake and has corrected none, and the one she admitted was IMNSHO not the severe one. She made several mistakes, of which I'll describe two. One (modestly serious) was to confuse units and compute the wrong number. The second (against my religion) was to publish without sanity-checking. You and I both know she didn't check, because her estimate for the average water use of one building was 20% of the water use of the continent. Any sort of check would uncover that mistake. We in the rational camp are supposed to behave differently from Alex Jones, and part of that is to check before we publish. She's "making arrangements with her editor to rectify the situation". If she fixes every reported error, not just one of them, I'll have a lot of respect for her.
    - konmok 10mo ago
      You dodged the question. That's not very rational of you :)
      - Arnt 10mo ago
        Was the question about Will whatshisname? I'd rather not mention his possible transgressions, since I hadn't even heard the name until this thread. Post a story about him to HN and I'll either comment or miss the thread, both are possible.

by konmok 11mo ago

Arnt 11mo ago

No double standard. On one hand, I think that people should check before publication and not publish shit. That goes for posting on the internet, and also about publishing books. Separately and orthogonally, I think that someone who doesn't check before publication and publishes shit should refrain from complaining about other people's shit, even though other people's shit really is shit.

konmok 11mo ago
Sure, fine. I'm just highlighting that you chose to call out Karen Hao for her mistake (which she admitted and corrected), but not Will MacAskill or any of the other big EA names that have made egregious and dishonest claims. If it's not a double standard, Will also ought to be silent on this subject, right? That's what I mean by unbalanced scrutiny.
- Arnt 10mo ago
  IMNSHO she didn't admit and correct the mistake — yet. She admitted one mistake and has corrected none, and the one she admitted was IMNSHO not the severe one. She made several mistakes, of which I'll describe two. One (modestly serious) was to confuse units and compute the wrong number. The second (against my religion) was to publish without sanity-checking. You and I both know she didn't check, because her estimate for the average water use of one building was 20% of the water use of the continent. Any sort of check would uncover that mistake. We in the rational camp are supposed to behave differently from Alex Jones, and part of that is to check before we publish. She's "making arrangements with her editor to rectify the situation". If she fixes every reported error, not just one of them, I'll have a lot of respect for her.
  - konmok 10mo ago
    You dodged the question. That's not very rational of you :)
    - Arnt 10mo ago
      Was the question about Will whatshisname? I'd rather not mention his possible transgressions, since I hadn't even heard the name until this thread. Post a story about him to HN and I'll either comment or miss the thread, both are possible.