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Is it possible to permanently disable Gemini on Android? I keep getting it inserted into my messages and other places, and it's horrible to think that I'm one m

by mmastrac 11mo ago

Is it possible to permanently disable Gemini on Android? I keep getting it inserted into my messages and other places, and it's horrible to think that I'm one misclick away from turning it on.

Y_Y 11mo ago
Sorry, you've irrevocably consented by touching a button that appeared above what you were trying to tap half a millisecond earlier.
- withinboredom 11mo ago
  That only happens with Apple, so it's fine.
ajkjk 11mo ago
My feeling is we need laws to stop it
- rubyfan 11mo ago
  The industry agrees with you, hence the regulatory capture.
- Yizahi 11mo ago
  Too big to fail now
  - DavidPiper 11mo ago
    If it only takes a few years for a private entity to become "too big to fail" and quasi-immune to government regulation, we have a real problem.
    - fyrn_ 11mo ago
      An yeah, and honestly we do seem to have a real problem. Here's hoping OpenAI doesn't get the bailout they seem to be angling for..
- crazygringo 11mo ago
  You don't like some features being added to products so you want laws against adding certain features? I might not like a certain feature, but I'd dislike the government preventing companies from adding features a whole lot more. The thought of that terrifies me. (To be clear, legitimate regulations around privacy, user data, anti-fraud, etc. are fine. But just because you find AI features to be something you don't... like? That's not a legitimate reason for government intervention.)
  - MangoToupe 11mo ago
    What is so terrifying about exerting democratic control over software critical to exist in society?
    - crazygringo 11mo ago
      > over software critical to exist in society? I don't know what that means grammatically. But you could ask, what is so terrifying about exerting democratic control over people's free speech, over the political opinions they're allowed to express? The answer is, because it infringes on freedom. As long as these AI features aren't harming anyone -- if your only complaint is you find their presence annoying, in a product you have a free choice in using or not using -- then there's no democratic justification for passing laws against them. Democratic rights take precedence.
      - esseph 11mo ago
        Newsflash If voters Democratically decide to do something, that's democracy at work.
        crazygringo 11mo ago
        "Newsflash", the entire point of constitutions that enumerate rights is that fundamental rights and freedoms may not be abridged even by majority decision. If a Supreme Court strikes down a majority-passed law limiting free speech guaranteed by the Constitution, that's democracy at work.
saratogacx 11mo ago
I uninstall the gemini app and disable the google app. It seems they are heavily linked so remmoving it may do the trick. As a practice I don't use any google apps if I can find a good replacement so I am not sure if messages is impacted.

Is it possible to permanently disable Gemini on Android? I keep getting it inserted into my messages and other places, and it's horrible to think that I'm one misclick away from turning it on.

Y_Y 11mo ago

Sorry, you've irrevocably consented by touching a button that appeared above what you were trying to tap half a millisecond earlier.

withinboredom 11mo ago
That only happens with Apple, so it's fine.

ajkjk 11mo ago

My feeling is we need laws to stop it

rubyfan 11mo ago
The industry agrees with you, hence the regulatory capture.
Yizahi 11mo ago
Too big to fail now
- DavidPiper 11mo ago
  If it only takes a few years for a private entity to become "too big to fail" and quasi-immune to government regulation, we have a real problem.
  - fyrn_ 11mo ago
    An yeah, and honestly we do seem to have a real problem. Here's hoping OpenAI doesn't get the bailout they seem to be angling for..
crazygringo 11mo ago
You don't like some features being added to products so you want laws against adding certain features? I might not like a certain feature, but I'd dislike the government preventing companies from adding features a whole lot more. The thought of that terrifies me. (To be clear, legitimate regulations around privacy, user data, anti-fraud, etc. are fine. But just because you find AI features to be something you don't... like? That's not a legitimate reason for government intervention.)
- MangoToupe 11mo ago
  What is so terrifying about exerting democratic control over software critical to exist in society?
  - crazygringo 11mo ago
    > over software critical to exist in society? I don't know what that means grammatically. But you could ask, what is so terrifying about exerting democratic control over people's free speech, over the political opinions they're allowed to express? The answer is, because it infringes on freedom. As long as these AI features aren't harming anyone -- if your only complaint is you find their presence annoying, in a product you have a free choice in using or not using -- then there's no democratic justification for passing laws against them. Democratic rights take precedence.
    - esseph 11mo ago
      Newsflash If voters Democratically decide to do something, that's democracy at work.
      - crazygringo 11mo ago
        "Newsflash", the entire point of constitutions that enumerate rights is that fundamental rights and freedoms may not be abridged even by majority decision. If a Supreme Court strikes down a majority-passed law limiting free speech guaranteed by the Constitution, that's democracy at work.

saratogacx 11mo ago

I uninstall the gemini app and disable the google app. It seems they are heavily linked so remmoving it may do the trick. As a practice I don't use any google apps if I can find a good replacement so I am not sure if messages is impacted.