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Watched it a while ago. Made me seriously think about AI and what we should use it for. I feel like all the entertainment use cases (image and video gen) are a
by incognito124 11mo ago
Watched it a while ago. Made me seriously think about AI and what we should use it for. I feel like all the entertainment use cases (image and video gen) are a complete waste.
- jeffbee 11mo agoDeepMind's new [edit: apparently now old] weather forecast model is similar in architecture to the toys that generate videos of horses addressing Congress or cats wearing sombreros. The technology moves forward and while some of the new applications are not important, other applications of the same technology may be important.
- incognito124 11mo agoIs it really similar? I was under the impression it's a GNN of a (really dense) polyhedron, not a diffusion model
- jeffbee 11mo agoGenCast is a diffusion model, but it is not the "new" one like I said. Apparently there is another one. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.10772 https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.10772
- mattlondon 11mo agoThe chatbots and image editors are just a side-show. The real value is coming in e.g. chemistry (Alpha fold etc all), fusion research, weather prediction etc.
- epolanski 11mo agoML is used in weather prediction since the 80s and is the backbone of it since almost a decade. Not sure what are LLMs supposed to do there.
- danpalmer 11mo agoNo one is suggesting using LLMs for weather. DeepMind is making significant progress on weather prediction with new AI models.
- neumann 11mo agooh god - please tell BoM in Australia. Either ML is not keeping up with clime change unpredictability, or SOTA is worse than what we had 10 years ago.
- danpalmer 11mo agoI relocated to Australia last year. This country is obsessed with the BoM and I don't know why. The few times I've used it, it was either outright wrong, or I couldn't even find the weather info I wanted (like, is it going to rain tomorrow), and they only added TLS in 2025!
- Glemkloksdjf 11mo agoLLMs in general are ML based, need a lot of data and compute. The same infrastructure as any other ML based system. The AI/AGI hype in my opinion could be better renamed to ml with data and compute 'hype' (i don't like the word hype as it doesn't fit very well)
- echelon 11mo agoNone of that has reached the market yet. If it was up to the sciences alone, AI couldn't bear the weight of its own costs. It also needs to be vertically integrated to make money, otherwise it's a handout to the materials science company. I can't see any of the AI companies stretching themselves that thin. So they give it away for goodwill or good PR.
- incognito124 11mo agoThat's not really true. Commercial weather prediction has reached the market, and a drug (sorry, can't find the new s link) that was found by AI-accelerated drug discovery is now in clinical testing
- aoeusnth1 11mo agoThe reason why vertical integration is important for AI investment is that if AI is commoditized, then that AI-acceleration will costs pennies for drugs that are worth billions. I don't see how OpenAI or Google can profit from drug discovery. It's nearly pure consumer surplus (where the drug companies and patients are the consumers).
- tim333 11mo agoScience in general tends to be subsidised and given away because as basic understanding of the world is hard to monopolise. I'm not sure how Einstein would have done a general relativity startup. That said Deepmind are doing a spin-off making drugs https://www.isomorphiclabs.com/ https://www.isomorphiclabs.com/
- bayindirh 11mo ago> None of that has reached the market yet. AI for science is not "marketed". It silently evolves under the wraps and changes our lives step by step. There are many AI systems already monitoring our ecosystem and predicting things as you read this comment.
- poszlem 11mo agoThe real value is coming in warfare.
- awaythrow999 11mo agoRight. More accurate predictions for meta-data based killings which as championed by US in their war on terror
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- walletdrainer 11mo agoMetadata based killings are most likely a huge improvement from the prior state of affairs
- modeless 11mo agoYeah. Let the leaders assassinate each other with drone strikes instead of indiscriminately bombing whole cities as they used to.
- dylan604 11mo agowhat gov't in modern day would fall because the leader was assassinated? the next in line would just step up, and now have a pissed population that will be in favor of ratcheting up beyond assassinations.
- mattlondon 11mo agoAny autocratic state would probably have quite a high likelihood I would expect. I am sure you can think of a few prominent examples.
- threethirtytwo 11mo agoWhy are images and video a complete waste? This makes no sense to me. Right now the generators aren’t effective but they are definitely stepping stones to something better in the future. If that future thing produces video, movies and pictures better than anything humanity can produce at a rate faster than we can produce things… how is that a waste? It can arguably be bad for society but definitely not a waste.
- incognito124 11mo agoLet me phrase it a bit differently, then: AI generated cats in Ghibli style are a waste, we should definitely do less of that. I did not hold that opinion before the documentary Education-style infographics and videos are OK.
- danielbln 11mo agoI'm glad you're not the sole arbiter for what is wasteful and what isn't.
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- dylan604 11mo agoJust because you disagree does not make them wrong though
- threethirtytwo 11mo agoI’m not even talking about this. Those cat videos are just stepping stones for academy award winning masterpieces of cinema like dune. All generated by AI on a click in one second.
- lm28469 11mo agoHomoconsomator brain be like ^
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- modeless 11mo agoYou might have said the same thing about GPUs for 20 years when they were mostly for games, before they turned out to be essential for AI. All the entertainment use cases were directly funding development of the next generation of computing all along.
- tim333 11mo agoPractical things are probably treating diseases and more abundance of physical goods. More speculative/sci-fi is merging in some form with AI and maybe immortality which I think is the more interesting bit.
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- cultofmetatron 11mo agounfortunately all this work on sora has very real military use case. I personally think all this investment in sora by open AI is largely to create a digital fog of war. Now when a rocket splatters a 6 year old palestinian girl's head across the pavement like a jackson polock painting, They will be able to claim its AI generated by state sponsored actors in order to prevent disruption to the manufactured consent aperatus.