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It competes in some ways and not in others. It does a pretty good job of providing similar benefits as many Scala ecosystems, but providing approachability over

It competes in some ways and not in others. It does a pretty good job of providing similar benefits as many Scala ecosystems, but providing approachability over purity. Kotlin becoming The Official Android Language helps it quite a bit, though the future gets interesting if Google successfully abandons the JVM entirely to rid themselves of Oracle. I'm skeptical that Kotlin targeting multiple runtimes is a winning proposition, but it certainly seems to be doing a better job than Scala Native (also Rust is probably the better choice than Scala Native for that kind of code anyway).

palata 11mo ago
> I'm skeptical that Kotlin targeting multiple runtimes is a winning proposition Kotlin multiplatform being adopted by Google for huge projects like Google workspace makes it sound like it may actually be a winning proposition, if you ask me. Kotlin is replacing the more-than-a-decade old, battle tested, Java-to-ObjC translation at Google. I find that very impressive. > also Rust is probably the better choice than Scala Native for that kind of code anyway For sharing code between e.g. Android and iOS, Kotlin multiplatform seems to become the better solution. If you use Rust, you still have to call it from Swift and you just introduced a 3rd language. I have always hated multiplatform frameworks, but Kotlin multiplatform is actually something that I find interesting (and flexible enough that you can choose where it makes sense to use it instead of committing to a whole framework).
- blandflakes 11mo ago
  > Kotlin multiplatform being adopted by Google for huge projects like Google workspace makes it sound like it may actually be a winning proposition, if you ask me. Kotlin is replacing the more-than-a-decade old, battle tested, Java-to-ObjC translation at Google. I find that very impressive. When it comes to Google, I'll believe it when I see it. How's Fucshia? > For sharing code between e.g. Android and iOS, Kotlin multiplatform seems to become the better solution. If you use Rust, you still have to call it from Swift and you just introduced a 3rd language. I'm not positing Rust for this or any multiplatform thing, I was suggesting that Scala Native is eclipsed by Rust in its relatively narrow niche (and actually in addition to Rust, graal native-image).

palata 11mo ago

> I'm skeptical that Kotlin targeting multiple runtimes is a winning proposition Kotlin multiplatform being adopted by Google for huge projects like Google workspace makes it sound like it may actually be a winning proposition, if you ask me. Kotlin is replacing the more-than-a-decade old, battle tested, Java-to-ObjC translation at Google. I find that very impressive. > also Rust is probably the better choice than Scala Native for that kind of code anyway For sharing code between e.g. Android and iOS, Kotlin multiplatform seems to become the better solution. If you use Rust, you still have to call it from Swift and you just introduced a 3rd language. I have always hated multiplatform frameworks, but Kotlin multiplatform is actually something that I find interesting (and flexible enough that you can choose where it makes sense to use it instead of committing to a whole framework).

blandflakes 11mo ago
> Kotlin multiplatform being adopted by Google for huge projects like Google workspace makes it sound like it may actually be a winning proposition, if you ask me. Kotlin is replacing the more-than-a-decade old, battle tested, Java-to-ObjC translation at Google. I find that very impressive. When it comes to Google, I'll believe it when I see it. How's Fucshia? > For sharing code between e.g. Android and iOS, Kotlin multiplatform seems to become the better solution. If you use Rust, you still have to call it from Swift and you just introduced a 3rd language. I'm not positing Rust for this or any multiplatform thing, I was suggesting that Scala Native is eclipsed by Rust in its relatively narrow niche (and actually in addition to Rust, graal native-image).