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> What are you trying to get them to apologize for? By that I mean, what action did Framework take that directly endorsed these specific views? How about the w

by erxam 11mo ago

> What are you trying to get them to apologize for? By that I mean, what action did Framework take that directly endorsed these specific views? How about the whole "giving D14HH thousands of dollars for a useless meme distro which does exactly zero novel things"? What is with this epidemic of willful ignorance? >You might as well jump to the conclusion that the people who programmed the animatronic Hippogriff at universal studios endorse every view that JK Rowling ever had. You might be forgetting the power differential between the worker bees and the CEO/board. The latter make the decisions, the former just execute them. Would I prefer if they had carried out a strike? Yes, but I know how hard it can be to put your job on the line, especially for underpaid positions. But if you're the CEO? Shut the fuck up. You can't buy your sixth yacht if you reject the JKR deal? Boo-fucking-hop. > Everyone who bought a Tesla is automatically a Nazi unless they make an apologetic statement when asked about it. Yeah, kinda. That's Musk's whole deal. >Idk, like, I understand that it is important for people to have conviction in their views and not just cop out and all that but at some level are people allowed to just not engage in stuff like this and not be forced to make a false apology? The whole problem is because Framework made a political statement with the donation. If they hadn't done so and just stayed away, then nobody would have ever had an issue, no matter their politics. If you openly make a political statement, what do you think people are going to do?

dangus 11mo ago
The reason we are disagreeing so much is that we can’t agree on what defines a political statement. Take your view on Tesla as an analogy to this: I don’t like Teslas and I don’t like Elon but they sell so many vehicles per year that it’s a statistical impossibility for all their owners to automatically be Nazi sympathizers. The Model Y sells almost as many units as the RAV4. A whole lot of Tesla owners don’t even know who Elon Musk is. Most people are not connected to any of this stupid Twitter drama. Framework hasn’t engaged with this guy in any way that goes beyond technology. They sponsor the rails foundation (not the distro) and maybe gave the dude a dev machine. You call this an open political statement, but I would say it’s the opposite. And now the Framework CEO is being cornered to make a political statement when he never intended to make one in the first place. It’s not like Framework donated to “The DHH Political Foundation for Racism.”

by erxam 11mo ago

dangus 11mo ago

The reason we are disagreeing so much is that we can’t agree on what defines a political statement. Take your view on Tesla as an analogy to this: I don’t like Teslas and I don’t like Elon but they sell so many vehicles per year that it’s a statistical impossibility for all their owners to automatically be Nazi sympathizers. The Model Y sells almost as many units as the RAV4. A whole lot of Tesla owners don’t even know who Elon Musk is. Most people are not connected to any of this stupid Twitter drama. Framework hasn’t engaged with this guy in any way that goes beyond technology. They sponsor the rails foundation (not the distro) and maybe gave the dude a dev machine. You call this an open political statement, but I would say it’s the opposite. And now the Framework CEO is being cornered to make a political statement when he never intended to make one in the first place. It’s not like Framework donated to “The DHH Political Foundation for Racism.”