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Bazzite fills a SteamOS-sized hole with a decent level of hardware support. Unclear how long that'll be the case - I don't see it surviving the release of a GA

Bazzite fills a SteamOS-sized hole with a decent level of hardware support. Unclear how long that'll be the case - I don't see it surviving the release of a GA SteamOS.

tapoxi 10mo ago
I'm not convinced there will be a GA SteamOS. Bazzite also has a much more frequent release cadence which is important for the kernel and Mesa. SteamOS only ships a major version every year.
- galleywest200 10mo ago
  Steam OS is a rolling release (Arch based) with constant small updates. My Steamdeck has had updates several times this year.
  - opan 10mo ago
    Especially on the Beta branch, I'm getting several system updates per week. I check for one every time I wake it up, along with checking for any available game update downloads. Originally moved to the Beta branch to get the new 8BitDo controller features (Mid-July maybe), but it's worked well enough I've never gone back to Stable.
  - tapoxi 10mo ago
    It's snapshotted from Arch, once a year they bump the kernel and include "updated Arch Linux base" as a release note. SteamOS 3.7 is still on Kernel 6.11 and KDE Plasma 6.2, for example. Bazzite is 6.17 and Plasma 6.5. This matters if you're using more recent hardware or want the latest driver optimizations. My 9070 XT is supported by Bazzite, SteamOS won't even boot.
    - UK-Al05 10mo ago
      I think that's changed recently. Recent release notes state it's added support for RDNA4
      - tapoxi 10mo ago
        VKD3D-Proton gained FSR4 support and will ship in a future release of Proton, but RDNA4 requires a newer kernel. SteamOS release notes are public at https://www.steamdeck.com/en/news https://www.steamdeck.com/en/news, it still uses a 6.11 kernel from September 2024.
        UK-Al05 10mo ago
        This youtuber has the 9070XT working on the latest steamos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6-R6XtCUQ&pp=ygUXZXRhIHByaW1lIHN0ZWFtIG1hY2hpbmU%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6-R6XtCUQ&pp=ygUXZXRhIHBya....
    - TiredOfLife 10mo ago
      SteamOS main is on Kernel 6.16.12 and KDE Plasma 6.4.3
      - tapoxi 10mo ago
        My point exactly, main is SteamOS's alpha state before its frozen into 3.8 beta, and its still months behind Bazzite.
throawayonthe 10mo ago
i'm still not sure why anyone wants a GA steamos, the value is in the vertical integration, no? the "console experience" are mostly the bigscreen mode and other things already available in things like bazzite, while being a more general distro...

Bazzite fills a SteamOS-sized hole with a decent level of hardware support. Unclear how long that'll be the case - I don't see it surviving the release of a GA SteamOS.

tapoxi 10mo ago

I'm not convinced there will be a GA SteamOS. Bazzite also has a much more frequent release cadence which is important for the kernel and Mesa. SteamOS only ships a major version every year.

galleywest200 10mo ago
Steam OS is a rolling release (Arch based) with constant small updates. My Steamdeck has had updates several times this year.
- opan 10mo ago
  Especially on the Beta branch, I'm getting several system updates per week. I check for one every time I wake it up, along with checking for any available game update downloads. Originally moved to the Beta branch to get the new 8BitDo controller features (Mid-July maybe), but it's worked well enough I've never gone back to Stable.
- tapoxi 10mo ago
  It's snapshotted from Arch, once a year they bump the kernel and include "updated Arch Linux base" as a release note. SteamOS 3.7 is still on Kernel 6.11 and KDE Plasma 6.2, for example. Bazzite is 6.17 and Plasma 6.5. This matters if you're using more recent hardware or want the latest driver optimizations. My 9070 XT is supported by Bazzite, SteamOS won't even boot.
  - UK-Al05 10mo ago
    I think that's changed recently. Recent release notes state it's added support for RDNA4
    - tapoxi 10mo ago
      VKD3D-Proton gained FSR4 support and will ship in a future release of Proton, but RDNA4 requires a newer kernel. SteamOS release notes are public at https://www.steamdeck.com/en/news https://www.steamdeck.com/en/news, it still uses a 6.11 kernel from September 2024.
      - UK-Al05 10mo ago
        This youtuber has the 9070XT working on the latest steamos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6-R6XtCUQ&pp=ygUXZXRhIHByaW1lIHN0ZWFtIG1hY2hpbmU%3D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U6-R6XtCUQ&pp=ygUXZXRhIHBya....
  - TiredOfLife 10mo ago
    SteamOS main is on Kernel 6.16.12 and KDE Plasma 6.4.3
    - tapoxi 10mo ago
      My point exactly, main is SteamOS's alpha state before its frozen into 3.8 beta, and its still months behind Bazzite.

throawayonthe 10mo ago

i'm still not sure why anyone wants a GA steamos, the value is in the vertical integration, no? the "console experience" are mostly the bigscreen mode and other things already available in things like bazzite, while being a more general distro...