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> instead try to denigrate the goals of this initiative because of the chosen character Incorrect. Nobody is denigrating the goals of the initiative. All criti

> instead try to denigrate the goals of this initiative because of the chosen character Incorrect. Nobody is denigrating the goals of the initiative. All criticism I see is directed at the choice of the mascot only. You know... people can love an initiative and criticize its mascot at the same time. The two are not incompatible. > Clippy would have been evil but that's the point, it wasn't back then. I was around when Clippy was introduced. It was universally hated. If anything, Clippy would be a good mascot for intrusive AI tools and services that harvest our data without regard for our privacy, not least because Clippy constantly monitored user actions just so that it could interrupt them. If we want a mascot for tools that respect our data, it should definitely be something far less evil than Clippy.

pcdoodle 10mo ago
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unclad5968 10mo ago
> Incorrect. Nobody is denigrating the goals of the initiative. All criticism I see is directed at the choice of the mascot only. The top comment, a thread you participated in, claims "The entire forced clippy movement is incredibly poorly thought out" after criticism of using clippy as a mascot.
- n2d4 10mo ago
  You can agree with the goals of an initiative and still think it is poorly thought out. OP is acting as if anyone criticizing this thing must clearly be opposed to their entire world view, accusing them of being paid shills. No. Maybe they just (rightfully) don't like Clippy, and don't want a movement they care about to turn into that.
- satvikpendem 10mo ago
  Disagreement is not denigration. Like the sibling said, don't go so far in tge opposite side of the "you're either with us or against us" rhetoric that's been common for movements, the world is much more complex than that.
soraminazuki 10mo ago
> All criticism I see is * My criticism is > Nobody is denigrating the goals of the initiative. You're flooding this thread with your tangent about Clippy, which is diverting focus from the main issue regardless of your intentions. > I was around when Clippy was introduced. FWIW, so were many people on this forum and definitely the people behind this movement.
PunchyHamster 10mo ago
> Incorrect. Nobody is denigrating the goals of the initiative. All criticism I see is directed at the choice of the mascot only. here is the comment posted before your comment that denigrates whole movement with it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46090463 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46090463 > I was around when Clippy was introduced. It was universally hated. If anything, Clippy would be a good mascot for intrusive AI tools and services that harvest our data without regard for our privacy, not least because Clippy constantly monitored user actions just so that it could interrupt them. It would but funnily enough new MS mascot for that, Mico, perfectly encompasses the AI movement with being amorphous, soulless blob
wombatpm 10mo ago
Nothing like the wasted time while Clippie loads animations from disk because someone in the workgroup turned it back on while searching for help in Word. Word 6 was already bringing out Macs to their knees, Clippie just added extra pain.

pcdoodle 10mo ago

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unclad5968 10mo ago

> Incorrect. Nobody is denigrating the goals of the initiative. All criticism I see is directed at the choice of the mascot only. The top comment, a thread you participated in, claims "The entire forced clippy movement is incredibly poorly thought out" after criticism of using clippy as a mascot.

n2d4 10mo ago
You can agree with the goals of an initiative and still think it is poorly thought out. OP is acting as if anyone criticizing this thing must clearly be opposed to their entire world view, accusing them of being paid shills. No. Maybe they just (rightfully) don't like Clippy, and don't want a movement they care about to turn into that.
satvikpendem 10mo ago
Disagreement is not denigration. Like the sibling said, don't go so far in tge opposite side of the "you're either with us or against us" rhetoric that's been common for movements, the world is much more complex than that.

soraminazuki 10mo ago

> All criticism I see is * My criticism is > Nobody is denigrating the goals of the initiative. You're flooding this thread with your tangent about Clippy, which is diverting focus from the main issue regardless of your intentions. > I was around when Clippy was introduced. FWIW, so were many people on this forum and definitely the people behind this movement.

PunchyHamster 10mo ago

> Incorrect. Nobody is denigrating the goals of the initiative. All criticism I see is directed at the choice of the mascot only. here is the comment posted before your comment that denigrates whole movement with it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46090463 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46090463 > I was around when Clippy was introduced. It was universally hated. If anything, Clippy would be a good mascot for intrusive AI tools and services that harvest our data without regard for our privacy, not least because Clippy constantly monitored user actions just so that it could interrupt them. It would but funnily enough new MS mascot for that, Mico, perfectly encompasses the AI movement with being amorphous, soulless blob

wombatpm 10mo ago

Nothing like the wasted time while Clippie loads animations from disk because someone in the workgroup turned it back on while searching for help in Word. Word 6 was already bringing out Macs to their knees, Clippie just added extra pain.