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That is still too kind. The insurrection was planned by the same types of corpo-fascist lobbyists that orchestrated the push of "woke", DEI, advocating for ille

That is still too kind. The insurrection was planned by the same types of corpo-fascist lobbyists that orchestrated the push of "woke", DEI, advocating for illegal immigration, etc. Take legitimately understandable frustrations, radicalize both sides with a culture war of feel-good half solutions that revolve around blaming their neighbors, smash the divided people into one another, and no matter which "side" "wins" the unaccountable corporate power structure ends up advancing. Online message boards were merely places for recruiting foot soldiers and getting them riled up.

mdhb 11mo ago
I don’t think Steve Bannon is to blame for “wokeness” and your analysis has more than a couple of holes in it.
- stuffn 11mo ago
  It’s good you took the time to post a critical, fact-based response instead of a trite baseless jab.
  - DoctorOW 11mo ago
    Wouldn't it be better to lead by example? You've yet to give any actual facts or evidence.
- mindslight 11mo ago
  Yes, Bannon is not to blame for "wokeness" but some of his colleagues most certainly are. Him and his ilk create and emphasize "culture war" distractions to create cover and support for corporate-authoritarian policies that seem to be the bread and butter of both parties. That isn't to say that both sides are the same, that elections don't have consequences, or that Bannon did not contribute his own style of mayhem. If he himself didn't exist we might just have had more of the same less-virulent "RINO" crap of the past few decades, with the reactionary senility still centered around talk radio rather than actually in the White House. But that's not really germane to my point apart from we might not have had an insurrection then. (FWIW I really hate the term "woke" as a punching bag because I am well aware of its etymology. But the thrust of my point was calling out the people who see it as some touchstone for something that must be defeated, serving as justification for why they themselves must pick up the mantle of evil)
cluckindan 11mo ago
All that fits the strategy outlined in Aleksandr Dugin’s book ”The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia”.
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undeveloper 11mo ago
both-sideism doesnt work when one side is actively pushing for non-white residents (citizen or otherwise) to be removed from the country as a whole. the DHS twitter account has started posting about "remigration". this isn't equal culture war stuff!
- mindslight 11mo ago
  The dynamic of both-sidesism is generally that of absolving one side based on the actions of the other. What I have said has the opposite sense - I am condemning the actions of one side by pointing out they are coming from the exact same place as things they condemn the other side for. Their red pill is "just another system of control", but they reject that fact since it's their turn to pretend to be in control.

mdhb 11mo ago

I don’t think Steve Bannon is to blame for “wokeness” and your analysis has more than a couple of holes in it.

stuffn 11mo ago
It’s good you took the time to post a critical, fact-based response instead of a trite baseless jab.
- DoctorOW 11mo ago
  Wouldn't it be better to lead by example? You've yet to give any actual facts or evidence.
mindslight 11mo ago
Yes, Bannon is not to blame for "wokeness" but some of his colleagues most certainly are. Him and his ilk create and emphasize "culture war" distractions to create cover and support for corporate-authoritarian policies that seem to be the bread and butter of both parties. That isn't to say that both sides are the same, that elections don't have consequences, or that Bannon did not contribute his own style of mayhem. If he himself didn't exist we might just have had more of the same less-virulent "RINO" crap of the past few decades, with the reactionary senility still centered around talk radio rather than actually in the White House. But that's not really germane to my point apart from we might not have had an insurrection then. (FWIW I really hate the term "woke" as a punching bag because I am well aware of its etymology. But the thrust of my point was calling out the people who see it as some touchstone for something that must be defeated, serving as justification for why they themselves must pick up the mantle of evil)

cluckindan 11mo ago

All that fits the strategy outlined in Aleksandr Dugin’s book ”The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia”.

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undeveloper 11mo ago

both-sideism doesnt work when one side is actively pushing for non-white residents (citizen or otherwise) to be removed from the country as a whole. the DHS twitter account has started posting about "remigration". this isn't equal culture war stuff!

mindslight 11mo ago
The dynamic of both-sidesism is generally that of absolving one side based on the actions of the other. What I have said has the opposite sense - I am condemning the actions of one side by pointing out they are coming from the exact same place as things they condemn the other side for. Their red pill is "just another system of control", but they reject that fact since it's their turn to pretend to be in control.