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In Europe didn’t basically all brands take a hit? It was framed as Tesla falling behind but it’s more that Chinese EVs are so cheap, nothing can compete. Even w

In Europe didn’t basically all brands take a hit? It was framed as Tesla falling behind but it’s more that Chinese EVs are so cheap, nothing can compete. Even within China the competition is insane, with over 100 car companies fighting to survive and giving out big discounts.

EliteGadget 11mo ago
It isn't just Chinese EVs there are Korean brands on the road e.g. Jaewoo. https://jaecoo.co.uk/ https://jaecoo.co.uk/ I'm in the UK and the only new Fords I see are these huge F250/F350 which make my 4x4 (which is relatively small compared to a modern 4x4) look tiny.
- haunter 11mo ago
  You managed to write the name wrong, Jaecoo not Jaewoo, and it's chinese not korean. On top of that it's a throwaway account.
  - EliteGadget 11mo ago
    I mixed these brands up. Thanks for the correction. They (Jaecoo) opened a dealership 20 minutes from where I am.
  - jeltz 11mo ago
    Pretty sure they confused Daewoo with Jaecoo. But as far as I know Daewoo does not exist anymore.
    - EliteGadget 11mo ago
      I confused Jae-woo (a Korean name) with Jaecoo. I think I must have mis-spelled the name when googling them after seeing the Dealership near me. However I do remember Daewoo, I don't think there many left on UK roads. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jae-woo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jae-woo
      - prmoustache 11mo ago
        GM bought Daewoo. The factories still exist but what used to be Daewoo are sold under the Chevrolet brand nowadays.
lawn 11mo ago
Volkswagen is doing very well in Europe.
- LunicLynx 11mo ago
  Even reuters disagrees. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagen-swings-13-billion-euro-loss-q3-tariff-porsche-woes-2025-10-30/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volksw...
  - lawn 11mo ago
    The article isn't at all about how Volkswagen is doing in Europe.
  - rsynnott 11mo ago
    That is about VW AG losing money due to one-off disruption relating to the Trump tariffs plus an issue with one of their minor brands. However, VW AG sales of electric cars in Europe are healthily up. I'd struggle to see how you got the idea that they were struggling from a sales PoV from that article; it says the opposite. This website has a serious reading comprehension problem.
jeltz 11mo ago
No. VW is up 78% and the market in general EV sales is up by 22%. It is actually just mostly Tesla doing poorly. https://www.best-selling-cars.com/electric/2025-half-year-europe-top-electric-car-brands-and-bev-models/ https://www.best-selling-cars.com/electric/2025-half-year-eu...
- LunicLynx 11mo ago
  https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagen-swings-13-billion-euro-loss-q3-tariff-porsche-woes-2025-10-30/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volksw...
  - jeltz 11mo ago
    What has their losses due to American tariffs have to do with their huge success in EV sales in Europe? Please stay on topic.

EliteGadget 11mo ago

It isn't just Chinese EVs there are Korean brands on the road e.g. Jaewoo. https://jaecoo.co.uk/ https://jaecoo.co.uk/ I'm in the UK and the only new Fords I see are these huge F250/F350 which make my 4x4 (which is relatively small compared to a modern 4x4) look tiny.

haunter 11mo ago
You managed to write the name wrong, Jaecoo not Jaewoo, and it's chinese not korean. On top of that it's a throwaway account.
- EliteGadget 11mo ago
  I mixed these brands up. Thanks for the correction. They (Jaecoo) opened a dealership 20 minutes from where I am.
- jeltz 11mo ago
  Pretty sure they confused Daewoo with Jaecoo. But as far as I know Daewoo does not exist anymore.
  - EliteGadget 11mo ago
    I confused Jae-woo (a Korean name) with Jaecoo. I think I must have mis-spelled the name when googling them after seeing the Dealership near me. However I do remember Daewoo, I don't think there many left on UK roads. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jae-woo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jae-woo
    - prmoustache 11mo ago
      GM bought Daewoo. The factories still exist but what used to be Daewoo are sold under the Chevrolet brand nowadays.

lawn 11mo ago

Volkswagen is doing very well in Europe.

LunicLynx 11mo ago
Even reuters disagrees. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagen-swings-13-billion-euro-loss-q3-tariff-porsche-woes-2025-10-30/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volksw...
- lawn 11mo ago
  The article isn't at all about how Volkswagen is doing in Europe.
- rsynnott 11mo ago
  That is about VW AG losing money due to one-off disruption relating to the Trump tariffs plus an issue with one of their minor brands. However, VW AG sales of electric cars in Europe are healthily up. I'd struggle to see how you got the idea that they were struggling from a sales PoV from that article; it says the opposite. This website has a serious reading comprehension problem.

jeltz 11mo ago

No. VW is up 78% and the market in general EV sales is up by 22%. It is actually just mostly Tesla doing poorly. https://www.best-selling-cars.com/electric/2025-half-year-europe-top-electric-car-brands-and-bev-models/ https://www.best-selling-cars.com/electric/2025-half-year-eu...

LunicLynx 11mo ago
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagen-swings-13-billion-euro-loss-q3-tariff-porsche-woes-2025-10-30/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volksw...
- jeltz 11mo ago
  What has their losses due to American tariffs have to do with their huge success in EV sales in Europe? Please stay on topic.