> Meanwhile, 20 years later, the best programmers you know are still using Vim and Emacs. The best programmers I know are game programmers using Visual Studio.

> Meanwhile, 20 years later, the best programmers you know are still using Vim and Emacs. The best programmers I know are game programmers using Visual Studio. Real Visual Studio, not Visual Studio Code. (vim is definitely a big thing but I'm not sure how many people I know who even use emacs anymore...)