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The same as everyone else’s options. Adapt. There’s no stopping this train.
by slashdev 10mo ago
The same as everyone else’s options.
Adapt.
There’s no stopping this train.
- dathinab 10mo agoclimate change isn't an one/off effect but gradual every bit of improvement is a higher chance to avoid some of the most catastrophic outcomes (where the unlikely but possible worst outcome being a mass extinction chain reaction which humanity will find very very hard to survive in a functioning manner/without losing their future) so still worth fighting for any improvement even if we can't avoid a catastrophe anymore, as there is a huge margin between what we still can archive, and what we might end up with if we stop fighting and are quite unlucky
- slashdev 10mo agoI agree, it's worth doing everything we can. But it's also clear, it won't be enough. Emissions are not only still increasing, they likely won't stop increasing in my lifetime (in the next 50 years.) We must adapt. The earth is going to get a lot warmer, and wetter in some parts, and drier in others, and sea levels will likely keep slowly rising for many centuries to come, if not millennia.
- troyvit 10mo agoEven though we, collectively, are driving said train. As a believer in the great filter theory[1] it's a shame given how far we've apparently come, only to be brought low by our desires, our inability to believe we could screw ourselves this royally, and our collective lack of give-a-shit to fix it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter
- ifwinterco 10mo agoI believe in climate change but in terms of a great filter candidate it doesn't seem significant - even in a worst case scenario with a lot of warming there will be large parts of the planet that are perfectly habitable. On the other hand: nuclear war, genetic engineering, or just plain bad luck (carrington event, asteroid impact) seem much more likely to actually wipe out modern society
- doodaddy 10mo agoAside from just plain bad luck, the things you list don't happen in isolation. Humans have fought bloody wars over land for as long as we've stood upright. Do you think we'll all neatly organize into the remaining habitable land?
- ifwinterco 10mo agoI agree climate change could cause wars but I don't agree with the narrative that it will somehow cause 'worse' wars because... worse than what? We've managed to have terrible wars than wipe out whole peoples, and great power competition that almost destroyed civilisation in the 1960s without any climate change required. It's hard to see how things can really get much worse on that front
- slashdev 10mo agoYou were downvoted for some reason I can't fathom, but I agree with you. It's not an extinction level event (not for humans anyway, it may well be for many other species.) It's not a candidate for the great filter. There will be migration, but over centuries, not a sudden exodus. There may be wars, but what's new.
- troyvit 10mo agoThe great filter isn't about extinction necessarily, but about not being able to transcend to a space-faring species. I don't think our ignorance of climate change will extinct us, but I do think the way we handle climate change is a symptom of the short-sightedness and willful ignorance that ensures we won't make it past Type I on the Kardashev scale.
- slashdev 10mo agoI see your point, but to qualify for the great filter it has to prevent not only us, but most civilizations from continuing as technological civilizations. I don't see it. Maybe at worst it's a temporary setback, not a permanent one.