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For context: hundreds (maybe thousands?) of people in the UK have now been arrested for carrying banners with messages supportive of Palestine Action, which was

by gmac 10mo ago

For context: hundreds (maybe thousands?) of people in the UK have now been arrested for carrying banners with messages supportive of Palestine Action, which was 'proscribed' as a 'terrorist organisation' for some acts of property damage. MPs celebrated the suffragettes -- who burned and blew things up in the name of securing political change -- in the same week that they voted for this outrageously repressive measure[1]. [1] https://www.thenational.scot/news/25287205.westminster-celebrates-suffragettes-mps-ban-palestine-action/ https://www.thenational.scot/news/25287205.westminster-celeb...).

rawling 10mo ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79727zeqyvo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79727zeqyvo
- gmac 10mo ago
  That’s a worse crime, but still by no means terrorism. And note the ‘alleged’.
  - rawling 10mo ago
    https://www.cps.gov.uk/types-crime/terrorism https://www.cps.gov.uk/types-crime/terrorism
    - gmac 10mo ago
      This (defining terrorism such that it includes one possibly-unrelated person hitting a police officer with a hammer) is exactly the problem.
mhb 10mo ago
That conflates what Rooney is doing/saying with the actual repression of speech in the UK. She is saying she will actually fund terrorism and LARPing at civil disobedience without being willing to face the consequences. So not really civil disobedience.
- berdario 10mo ago
  Rooney is Irish, not British (nor a resident in Britain), so it's perfectly normal for her to try to avoid the consequences of a foreign regime trying to oppress its population. In the same way, someone who supports the Azov brigade, would be expected to face consequences in Russia (and find difficulties in getting their books distributed) since Russia proscribed the Azov brigade, but precisely because of that... we wouldn't be asking of them to travel to Russia "to face the consequences"
pinewurst 10mo ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g54g1r15eo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g54g1r15eo

by gmac 10mo ago

rawling 10mo ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79727zeqyvo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c79727zeqyvo

gmac 10mo ago
That’s a worse crime, but still by no means terrorism. And note the ‘alleged’.
- rawling 10mo ago
  https://www.cps.gov.uk/types-crime/terrorism https://www.cps.gov.uk/types-crime/terrorism
  - gmac 10mo ago
    This (defining terrorism such that it includes one possibly-unrelated person hitting a police officer with a hammer) is exactly the problem.

mhb 10mo ago

That conflates what Rooney is doing/saying with the actual repression of speech in the UK. She is saying she will actually fund terrorism and LARPing at civil disobedience without being willing to face the consequences. So not really civil disobedience.

berdario 10mo ago
Rooney is Irish, not British (nor a resident in Britain), so it's perfectly normal for her to try to avoid the consequences of a foreign regime trying to oppress its population. In the same way, someone who supports the Azov brigade, would be expected to face consequences in Russia (and find difficulties in getting their books distributed) since Russia proscribed the Azov brigade, but precisely because of that... we wouldn't be asking of them to travel to Russia "to face the consequences"

pinewurst 10mo ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g54g1r15eo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g54g1r15eo