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Sure, but this ends up poisoning any sort of culture and creating all sorts of in-group nonsense which is almost impossible to undo. It’d be like using Blind a

by sailfast 11mo ago

Sure, but this ends up poisoning any sort of culture and creating all sorts of in-group nonsense which is almost impossible to undo. It’d be like using Blind as your company chat - nobody goes on there to say how great their experience has been, and the tone infects everything else. But maybe I’m just not very fun at parties… This should be avoided at all costs by creating a culture that is receptive to people’s concerns and doesn’t do stupid things without explanation - but I get how difficult that is in reality and most orgs end up messing this up.

im3w1l 11mo ago
Maybe I'm a bit unfair to you but to me your comment basically reads as wishing employees would be good little cogs in your machinery rather than people. Like making friends is natural human behavior. Forming friend groups is natural human behavior. It's not nice to disrupt this except that of course everyone has to be able to work together when needed.
- sailfast 11mo ago
  Making friends is great. Talking about work with friends is good and healthy. Moving all of your work related chats off-platform so you can “say whatever you want” about work and eventually making it into a defacto team chat is what I’m talking about here. This isn’t chatting with friends, this is creating team divisions and huge gaps in context for the rest of your team. This approach is being a poor colleague in my opinion. You can do both things - they’re not mutually exclusive.
  - lovich 11mo ago
    You can’t do both things. Humans want to engage in certain kinds of conversation that companies try to prevent happening. Sometimes you just want to vent and call your boss a fuckhead and it only takes one time in a persons life to see HR punishing/firing/admonishing someone for conduct on company communication channels that would have been perfectly fine in any other setting, for that person to never trust in the “company culture” There is no environment where messy human beings fit into the perfect set of rules and behavior that companies demand

im3w1l 11mo ago

Maybe I'm a bit unfair to you but to me your comment basically reads as wishing employees would be good little cogs in your machinery rather than people. Like making friends is natural human behavior. Forming friend groups is natural human behavior. It's not nice to disrupt this except that of course everyone has to be able to work together when needed.

sailfast 11mo ago
Making friends is great. Talking about work with friends is good and healthy. Moving all of your work related chats off-platform so you can “say whatever you want” about work and eventually making it into a defacto team chat is what I’m talking about here. This isn’t chatting with friends, this is creating team divisions and huge gaps in context for the rest of your team. This approach is being a poor colleague in my opinion. You can do both things - they’re not mutually exclusive.
- lovich 11mo ago
  You can’t do both things. Humans want to engage in certain kinds of conversation that companies try to prevent happening. Sometimes you just want to vent and call your boss a fuckhead and it only takes one time in a persons life to see HR punishing/firing/admonishing someone for conduct on company communication channels that would have been perfectly fine in any other setting, for that person to never trust in the “company culture” There is no environment where messy human beings fit into the perfect set of rules and behavior that companies demand