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I'm just wondering what gives HN, Reddit etc the right to our comments? If anyone owns this comment it's me IMO. So I don't see any reason why HN should be abl

by sfn42 11mo ago

I'm just wondering what gives HN, Reddit etc the right to our comments? If anyone owns this comment it's me IMO. So I don't see any reason why HN should be able to sue anyone for using this freely available information.

handfuloflight 11mo ago
With Reddit, at least it's the legal agreement you enter into them by creating an account and using it.
- sfn42 11mo ago
  So they own my comments because they said so.
  - lazide 11mo ago
    And they own the platform. And then you came to the platform (with those rules), and wrote your comment on it. So you agreed to the rules. At least that is what the TOS usually says. You can always get around that by making your own service or the like. Think of it like visiting a foreign country. Like it or not, their rules apply one way or another. If they can enforce them, anyway.
    - sfn42 11mo ago
      Yeah I get it. I just don't understand the public outrage. Why is everyone so worried about this? I write stuff knowing it's publicly available, and I don't give a crap about HN or Reddit or whomever's claims to my writings. As far as I'm concerned it's all public domain, so what if OpenAI trains on it? Why should that bother me? I just don't understand, it really just feels like a witch hunt, like everyone just wants to hate AI companies and they'll jump on any bandwagon that's against them no matter how nonsensical it is.
      - lazide 11mo ago
        If you got replaced at the job you needed by ‘AI’, isn’t it salt in the wound that they used your comments that you wrote without it in mind (in part) to do it? Why wouldn’t someone be mad about that?
  - gkbrk 11mo ago
    No, they own it because you said so. You "provide them with a global, non-revocable license to do things with the content you submit" as per the agreement you accepted. You're not required to enter into this agreement, this was a totally optional thing you opted to do.
- gunalx 11mo ago
  But that is not nessesarily enforceable in every region.
  - lazide 11mo ago
    Apparently, very little is enforceable anywhere, based on what the tech companies have been getting away with.

by sfn42 11mo ago

handfuloflight 11mo ago

With Reddit, at least it's the legal agreement you enter into them by creating an account and using it.

sfn42 11mo ago
So they own my comments because they said so.
- lazide 11mo ago
  And they own the platform. And then you came to the platform (with those rules), and wrote your comment on it. So you agreed to the rules. At least that is what the TOS usually says. You can always get around that by making your own service or the like. Think of it like visiting a foreign country. Like it or not, their rules apply one way or another. If they can enforce them, anyway.
  - sfn42 11mo ago
    Yeah I get it. I just don't understand the public outrage. Why is everyone so worried about this? I write stuff knowing it's publicly available, and I don't give a crap about HN or Reddit or whomever's claims to my writings. As far as I'm concerned it's all public domain, so what if OpenAI trains on it? Why should that bother me? I just don't understand, it really just feels like a witch hunt, like everyone just wants to hate AI companies and they'll jump on any bandwagon that's against them no matter how nonsensical it is.
    - lazide 11mo ago
      If you got replaced at the job you needed by ‘AI’, isn’t it salt in the wound that they used your comments that you wrote without it in mind (in part) to do it? Why wouldn’t someone be mad about that?
- gkbrk 11mo ago
  No, they own it because you said so. You "provide them with a global, non-revocable license to do things with the content you submit" as per the agreement you accepted. You're not required to enter into this agreement, this was a totally optional thing you opted to do.
gunalx 11mo ago
But that is not nessesarily enforceable in every region.
- lazide 11mo ago
  Apparently, very little is enforceable anywhere, based on what the tech companies have been getting away with.