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>And they didn't exactly struggle with the invasion parts of Afghanistan and Iraq, nor in the getting of high status targets in those theaters. That was post 9

>And they didn't exactly struggle with the invasion parts of Afghanistan and Iraq, nor in the getting of high status targets in those theaters. That was post 9/11. The mentality and motivation was different back then. Im not saying the US Military is anything less than a top tier orderly organization, its just that morale is generally low now among not only ranks but the entire country that supports them. You can't just throw out events occurring 23 years ago under a completely different context and assume things are the same. I'd argue an initial moves against Europe, Canada, etc. would be a bigger mess initially than Afghanistan/Iraq were.

dghlsakjg 11mo ago
My comment was in fun. I hoped that the reference to licking car batteries would signal that. No one is sending in the troops to rescue Bibi from the Hague for a variety of reasons. Chief among them is that he is not currently under arrest, and the chances of him being arrested are effectively nil. Also, Mossad.
- ta20240528 11mo ago
  I don't understand the Mossad comment - unless its just "ooh they're so scary" fanboy stuff. Let's suppose Netanyahu is somehow arrested and held in a highly secure government prison in The Netherlands awaiting his chance to clear his name at the ICC. What exactly do you suppose Mossad is going to do? - break him out? how? - openly assassinate politicians/judges until someone gives in? - blow up civilians? What?
  - fragmede 11mo ago
    Of course not, haven't you seen any movies? They break him out during transport, either by hijacking a plane, or through a complicated series of car and bus chase scenes! Maybe a helicopter and submarine, too.
  - dghlsakjg 11mo ago
    This is - again, I can't emphasize enough - all a joke about a hypothetical situation. Bibi has not been arrested, he won't be arrested anytime soon, and the US is not at the point where they are willing to invade Europe to save him. What do I think Mossad would do in the made up, improbable, alternate universe where we are debating the US invading their European allies? I think that Mossad/Israeli security would never be caught flatfooted enough to allow Israeli leaders to visit a country that was planning to arrest them. I thoroughly believe that it would be nigh impossible to maneuver an Israeli head of state into a position where they were arrested. If things change and he is no longer protected by Israeli security, that is different. So in answer to your question, no Mossad is not going to be breaking him out of a maximum security prison. They are going to use their intelligence network to say "Hey Benji, stay out Canada. They are going to arrest you, and have you tried if you set foot on their soil". Or "Hey Bibs, this state visit is mildly risky, we have an extraction plan in place if shit goes sideways."

dghlsakjg 11mo ago

My comment was in fun. I hoped that the reference to licking car batteries would signal that. No one is sending in the troops to rescue Bibi from the Hague for a variety of reasons. Chief among them is that he is not currently under arrest, and the chances of him being arrested are effectively nil. Also, Mossad.

ta20240528 11mo ago
I don't understand the Mossad comment - unless its just "ooh they're so scary" fanboy stuff. Let's suppose Netanyahu is somehow arrested and held in a highly secure government prison in The Netherlands awaiting his chance to clear his name at the ICC. What exactly do you suppose Mossad is going to do? - break him out? how? - openly assassinate politicians/judges until someone gives in? - blow up civilians? What?
- fragmede 11mo ago
  Of course not, haven't you seen any movies? They break him out during transport, either by hijacking a plane, or through a complicated series of car and bus chase scenes! Maybe a helicopter and submarine, too.
- dghlsakjg 11mo ago
  This is - again, I can't emphasize enough - all a joke about a hypothetical situation. Bibi has not been arrested, he won't be arrested anytime soon, and the US is not at the point where they are willing to invade Europe to save him. What do I think Mossad would do in the made up, improbable, alternate universe where we are debating the US invading their European allies? I think that Mossad/Israeli security would never be caught flatfooted enough to allow Israeli leaders to visit a country that was planning to arrest them. I thoroughly believe that it would be nigh impossible to maneuver an Israeli head of state into a position where they were arrested. If things change and he is no longer protected by Israeli security, that is different. So in answer to your question, no Mossad is not going to be breaking him out of a maximum security prison. They are going to use their intelligence network to say "Hey Benji, stay out Canada. They are going to arrest you, and have you tried if you set foot on their soil". Or "Hey Bibs, this state visit is mildly risky, we have an extraction plan in place if shit goes sideways."