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They are also aggressively anti-AI edit: If you are downvoting because you are also anti-AI, my comment is not about whether supporting AI is good. I'm only re

They are also aggressively anti-AI edit: If you are downvoting because you are also anti-AI, my comment is not about whether supporting AI is good. I'm only remarking that they are aggressively negative about the topic. The aggression is obnoxious and less tolerated with other topics.

kaycebasques 11mo ago
The proposal to rename the vibecoding tag to something else provides a pretty good sense of the overall sentiment among the site's members: https://lobste.rs/s/gkzmfy/let_s_rename_vibecoding_tag_llms https://lobste.rs/s/gkzmfy/let_s_rename_vibecoding_tag_llms
Aurornis 11mo ago
HN comment sections are full of anti-AI remarks, but there’s enough volume of contents that you can still find some quality info here. On Lobsters it feels like the angry anti-LLM mindset is woven into the site’s culture, like you’re breaking some unspoken rule if you accidentally say something non-derogatory about AI.
- Karrot_Kream 11mo ago
  As you wrote earlier it's a culture war thing. Lobsters is very big about being on one side of the culture wars there and the American social justice side is anti-AI, so the culture on the site has adopted the same view.
varjag 11mo ago
Lobsters is in general very anti grift and marketing. A huge portion of daily hype submissions are low signal fluff. As it happens AI the the hype of the day. Yes it is useful but also it attracts the same insufferable people who were pushing NFTs 4 years ago. So Lobsters have separate AI tag for technical pieces to do with actual development of AI systems and "vibecoding" for softcore user experience entries. Lots of people mute the latter. This, and the fact that the site refers to their blog posts as lowly vibecoding irks some of submitters.
- wahnfrieden 11mo ago
  Their disdain goes far beyond routing out grift and hype. That is simply pretext
  - varjag 11mo ago
    Even if they were anti-AI (which I don't think is true), it's not a big deal. There isn't exactly a shortage of write ups about GenAI on the Internet. There are film photography forums where digital photography is off-topic. There is at least one machinist forum where the topics of drone-making and 3D printing are explicitly banned. This is fine, these are niche places for like minded people who don't want to be drowned out by the masses promoting whatever is hot.
    - staticassertion 11mo ago
      > Even if they were anti-AI (which I don't think is true) The entire site is constantly talking about how AI sucks and how it's not worth taking seriously. The AI tag was exclusively "vibecoding" despite it being extremely annoying for anyone who wanted to talk about it. Posts about AI being bad are upvoted far more, despite being very obviously low content/ uninteresting. Sentiment is very obviously anti-AI on lobsters. I don't even think this should be contentious. The site is very openly anti-AI. When discussions about this have come up in meta posts it is overwhelmingly the case that users say "yes, we are anti AI, that's fine". > it's not a big deal. It stopped me from posting on there and I deleted my account because the conversations were so stupid. It comes up frequently that users want to be able to filter out "AI fluff" separately from "interesting discussion of AI". You can have a post about the internal algorithms and optimizations of an LLM and it will still be labeled "vibecoding" on the site - if that doesn't blatantly indicate a site-wide anti-AI bias I don't know how.

kaycebasques 11mo ago

The proposal to rename the vibecoding tag to something else provides a pretty good sense of the overall sentiment among the site's members: https://lobste.rs/s/gkzmfy/let_s_rename_vibecoding_tag_llms https://lobste.rs/s/gkzmfy/let_s_rename_vibecoding_tag_llms

Aurornis 11mo ago

HN comment sections are full of anti-AI remarks, but there’s enough volume of contents that you can still find some quality info here. On Lobsters it feels like the angry anti-LLM mindset is woven into the site’s culture, like you’re breaking some unspoken rule if you accidentally say something non-derogatory about AI.

Karrot_Kream 11mo ago
As you wrote earlier it's a culture war thing. Lobsters is very big about being on one side of the culture wars there and the American social justice side is anti-AI, so the culture on the site has adopted the same view.

varjag 11mo ago

Lobsters is in general very anti grift and marketing. A huge portion of daily hype submissions are low signal fluff. As it happens AI the the hype of the day. Yes it is useful but also it attracts the same insufferable people who were pushing NFTs 4 years ago. So Lobsters have separate AI tag for technical pieces to do with actual development of AI systems and "vibecoding" for softcore user experience entries. Lots of people mute the latter. This, and the fact that the site refers to their blog posts as lowly vibecoding irks some of submitters.

wahnfrieden 11mo ago
Their disdain goes far beyond routing out grift and hype. That is simply pretext
- varjag 11mo ago
  Even if they were anti-AI (which I don't think is true), it's not a big deal. There isn't exactly a shortage of write ups about GenAI on the Internet. There are film photography forums where digital photography is off-topic. There is at least one machinist forum where the topics of drone-making and 3D printing are explicitly banned. This is fine, these are niche places for like minded people who don't want to be drowned out by the masses promoting whatever is hot.
  - staticassertion 11mo ago
    > Even if they were anti-AI (which I don't think is true) The entire site is constantly talking about how AI sucks and how it's not worth taking seriously. The AI tag was exclusively "vibecoding" despite it being extremely annoying for anyone who wanted to talk about it. Posts about AI being bad are upvoted far more, despite being very obviously low content/ uninteresting. Sentiment is very obviously anti-AI on lobsters. I don't even think this should be contentious. The site is very openly anti-AI. When discussions about this have come up in meta posts it is overwhelmingly the case that users say "yes, we are anti AI, that's fine". > it's not a big deal. It stopped me from posting on there and I deleted my account because the conversations were so stupid. It comes up frequently that users want to be able to filter out "AI fluff" separately from "interesting discussion of AI". You can have a post about the internal algorithms and optimizations of an LLM and it will still be labeled "vibecoding" on the site - if that doesn't blatantly indicate a site-wide anti-AI bias I don't know how.