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I don't remember licensing my HN comments for 3rd party processing.

by GeoAtreides 11mo ago

verdverm 11mo ago
https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/ https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/
- GeoAtreides 11mo ago
  correct, my comments are licensed to HN and HN affiliated companies: >With respect to the content or other materials you upload through the Site or share with other users or recipients (collectively, “User Content”), you represent and warrant that you own all right, title and interest in and to such User Content, including, without limitation, all copyrights and rights of publicity contained therein. >By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose
  - cyberpunk 11mo ago
    And whoever created this database of our comments is affiliated with YCOM how?
    - GeoAtreides 11mo ago
      that's exactly what I'm saying :)
    - verdverm 11mo ago
      Looks like the relationship is not new https://clickhouse.com/deals/ycombinator https://clickhouse.com/deals/ycombinator
      - GeoAtreides 11mo ago
        fine, I guess they're associated to HN and so free to plunder... steal... I mean, legally used my content ah, if only I knew about this small little legal detail when I made my account...
        DrewADesign 11mo ago
        Functionally, it doesn't matter anyway. These licensing schemes only serve the owners of services large enough to legally badger other moneyed entities into retrospective payments. Individual users have no agency over their submitted content, and nobody in charge of these companies even gives a second thought to keeping it that way. As I've said many times, nobody in this space gives a shit about anything except how they look to investors and potential users-- least of all the people that make the 'content' these machines 'learn'.
        hiccuphippo 11mo ago
        They can update their privacy policy at any time so it wouldn't have mattered if they added it after you made your account.
        otterley 11mo ago
        Do you have some expectation that when you post your content to some 3P site that you somehow continue to exercise control over it (other than rights under the GDPR)? What basis do you have for this belief?
        GeoAtreides 11mo ago
        > What basis do you have for this belief? The law. And the license agreed when I made the account.
        otterley 11mo ago
        Which law and which terms of the contract?
- echelon 11mo ago
  > If you request deletion of your Hacker News account, note that we reserve the right to refuse to (i) delete any of the submissions, favorites, or comments you posted on the Hacker News site or linked in your profile and/or (ii) remove their association with your Hacker News ID. I don't know why they continue to stand by this massive breach of privacy. Citizens of any country should have the right to sue to remove personal information from any website at any time, regardless of how it got there. Right to be forgotten should he universal.
  - GeoAtreides 11mo ago
    >I don't know why they continue to stand by this massive breach of privacy. It's worse than that, it's an obvious GDPR violation. But it hasn't been tested in a (european) court yet. One day, it will be, and much rejoicing would be had then. It's also a shitty provision that it's not made clear when signing up for HN, as it is a pretty uncommon one.
    - nomdep 11mo ago
      > One day, it will be, and much rejoicing would be had then. You write like a Bible.
  - deleted 11mo ago
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I don't remember licensing my HN comments for 3rd party processing.

verdverm 11mo ago

https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/ https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/

GeoAtreides 11mo ago
correct, my comments are licensed to HN and HN affiliated companies: >With respect to the content or other materials you upload through the Site or share with other users or recipients (collectively, “User Content”), you represent and warrant that you own all right, title and interest in and to such User Content, including, without limitation, all copyrights and rights of publicity contained therein. >By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose
- cyberpunk 11mo ago
  And whoever created this database of our comments is affiliated with YCOM how?
  - GeoAtreides 11mo ago
    that's exactly what I'm saying :)
  - verdverm 11mo ago
    Looks like the relationship is not new https://clickhouse.com/deals/ycombinator https://clickhouse.com/deals/ycombinator
    - GeoAtreides 11mo ago
      fine, I guess they're associated to HN and so free to plunder... steal... I mean, legally used my content ah, if only I knew about this small little legal detail when I made my account...
      - DrewADesign 11mo ago
        Functionally, it doesn't matter anyway. These licensing schemes only serve the owners of services large enough to legally badger other moneyed entities into retrospective payments. Individual users have no agency over their submitted content, and nobody in charge of these companies even gives a second thought to keeping it that way. As I've said many times, nobody in this space gives a shit about anything except how they look to investors and potential users-- least of all the people that make the 'content' these machines 'learn'.
      - hiccuphippo 11mo ago
        They can update their privacy policy at any time so it wouldn't have mattered if they added it after you made your account.
      - otterley 11mo ago
        Do you have some expectation that when you post your content to some 3P site that you somehow continue to exercise control over it (other than rights under the GDPR)? What basis do you have for this belief?
        GeoAtreides 11mo ago
        > What basis do you have for this belief? The law. And the license agreed when I made the account.
        otterley 11mo ago
        Which law and which terms of the contract?
echelon 11mo ago
> If you request deletion of your Hacker News account, note that we reserve the right to refuse to (i) delete any of the submissions, favorites, or comments you posted on the Hacker News site or linked in your profile and/or (ii) remove their association with your Hacker News ID. I don't know why they continue to stand by this massive breach of privacy. Citizens of any country should have the right to sue to remove personal information from any website at any time, regardless of how it got there. Right to be forgotten should he universal.
- GeoAtreides 11mo ago
  >I don't know why they continue to stand by this massive breach of privacy. It's worse than that, it's an obvious GDPR violation. But it hasn't been tested in a (european) court yet. One day, it will be, and much rejoicing would be had then. It's also a shitty provision that it's not made clear when signing up for HN, as it is a pretty uncommon one.
  - nomdep 11mo ago
    > One day, it will be, and much rejoicing would be had then. You write like a Bible.
- deleted 11mo ago
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