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Netbot: An App.net Client from Tweetbot Creators
- modernerd 14y agoTapbots link: http://tapbots.com/software/netbot/ http://tapbots.com/software/netbot/ App Store link: http://itunes.apple.com/app/netbot-for-iphone-app.net/id563595132?mt=8 http://itunes.apple.com/app/netbot-for-iphone-app.net/id5635...
- drharris 14y agoPay money to view a feed from people who paid money to view each others' feeds, with conversation about the feed? It all seems so meta.
- diego 14y agoJust because it's money? You're also spending your time, effort, attention, and opportunity cost. Is college meta because you spend money to work for free with people who also spend money, while learning from people who get paid money to teach you? You're probably more used to services that monetize with ads, and encourage quantity of accounts at the expense of quality because it's good for their numbers. Nothing meta about one or the other.
- drharris 14y agoNo, just because it's a recursive service. A feed where the feed is full of people talking about the feed. At least, last time I checked. Edit: And, suspicions are confirmed: http://adn.loqix.com/appwords.17:00-03.10.2012.png http://adn.loqix.com/appwords.17:00-03.10.2012.png
- barredo 14y agoNow they have my attention. It is an incredible client.
- joeblau 14y agoThis looks awesome! I was wondering how long it would take for companies with Twitter clients to port over to App.net. The App.net platform looks like it may give Twitter a run for its money.
- cicloid 14y agoMy favorite client in the new frame... I wonder how much time did take to port the network code to App.net? And if using a different key for crossposting.
- kevinherron 14y agoHow can something that just launched be labeled 'mature'?
- primatology 14y agoThe idea is that much of the code from Tapbot's mature Twitter client (Tweetbot) was reused.
- bradleyjoyce 14y agoI'm curious as to why they created a completely separate app. Why not just integrate App.net functionality into Tweetbot? I'd certainly be much more likely to use it that way... and I even paid the $100 developer fee for app.net.
- whalesalad 14y agoYeah they're essentially identical platforms in terms of interaction. Reading a stream, replying, retweeting/reposting etc... They already have multi-user support, I'd rather interact with one app in this way. Or better, have the client merge your two accounts so that app.net/twitter become seamless and instead of thinking about who is on where, you simply enjoy it through the window of your client and none of that matters. But.. I'm sure it took some good work to develop this and by simply updating Tweetbot they might not get reimbursed for that dev time. Rather, the new app must've been required. I look forward to an integrated client down the road.
- swilliams 14y agoI'm pretty sure the newer TOS for Twitter precludes that.
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- gjulianm 14y agoThe TOS just forbids mixing Twitter updates with updates from other social networks in the same stream, I think.
- nitinthewiz 14y agoPeople can post from Netbot to both twitter and App.net. Twitter's TOS doesn't allow the twitter app to post to anything else...
- jeffgreco 14y agoTwo apps = two purchases.
- colinsidoti 14y agoThis. I don't think App.net would have worked a year ago, maybe even not six months ago. But now, with Twitter actively attacking their developers, I imagine we'll be seeing a ton of ports from Twitter to App.net. Twitter definitely considered the risk of cutting off their development community, but I don't think they intended to hand those developers off to a competing platform. Good timing from App.net.
- kmfrk 14y agoThe App.net reward program probably motivated them as well: http://blog.app.net/blog/2012/09/27/announcing-the-app-net-developer-incentive-program/ http://blog.app.net/blog/2012/09/27/announcing-the-app-net-d.... I think the App.net guys made an astute observation that the biggest hurdle to attracting developers was doing away with the perception as the platform as a gamble for developers. It doesn't hurt that the Tapbots guys used the Tweetbot apps to piggyback on, of course.
- perishabledave 14y agoThe reward program was announced a week before Netbot was released (that is, today). Doesn't seem like the reward program was around when they decided to port over Tweetbot.
- msbarnett 14y agoUnlikely (read: impossible). Even if they could have ported it in the 6 days since that announcement, there's no way they rammed a new app through App Store approval that fast. They'd probably already have had to have submitted it before the announcement given current wait times.
- kmfrk 14y agoThat's a good point. I didn't even consider the approval process in the App Store.
- whalesalad 14y agoApp.net will get lots of hackers and people in our community, but in terms of reaching critical mass ... I don't think it will work. People join twitter now out of societal pressure. "What is this thing? What is this ad on the subway that says I should follow them on twitter? Who's this athlete that is now Kobe Bryant with a strange @username at the end of his name?" Developers, techy individuals, and people who consume twitter at a high level are more inclined to pay for it. People who casually use it to help trend the latest hashtag about #whatmenreallywantfromawoman could care less. They're not going to pay a yearly fee for this, especially when the line between this and twitter is very blurry. p.s. I am an app.net user and own a copy of netbot.
- timmillwood 14y agoI would sign up for app.net if they supported open standards such as OStatus.
- abraham 14y agoThey have committed to supporting open standards like Activity Streams, PubSubHubBub, and Webfinger. While not OStatus explicitly, it looks like the majority of OStatus will be supported. http://daltoncaldwell.com/a-response-to-brennan-novak http://daltoncaldwell.com/a-response-to-brennan-novak
- rwolf 14y agoIt's important to note the careful hedging in that response. Specifically: * Activity Streams will be read-only, except through their (non-ostatus) API. * No subscribing through pubsubhubbub "initially." It implies but does not promise eventually subscribing. * Similar to streams, webfinger will be published but not consumed. * From context, the final clause about inbound and outbound syndication is through some non-ostatus mechanism.
- astrodust 14y agoStill not sure why I'm supposed to care about app.net enough to pay $5/mo.
- mikeevans 14y agoWhat about $3/mo? They just introduced a $36/year plan.
- nitinthewiz 14y agoThe best part of that is that if the cost decreases further, you don't lose your money, you get more membership time.
- astrodust 14y agoTo what, exactly?
- pgrote 14y agoI cannot tell you a good reason ... and I signed up during the announcement period. lol For me, it came down to wanting to be part of something being built from the ground up. Heck, I am not even a big Twitter user.
- diego 14y agoNetbot is causing quite a stir at app.net. Here's a word cloud of the past hour's global timeline: http://adn.loqix.com/appwords.17:00-03.10.2012.png http://adn.loqix.com/appwords.17:00-03.10.2012.png
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- nitinthewiz 14y agoNetbot client stats on ADN - http://appnetizens.com/clientstats http://appnetizens.com/clientstats 44% (and growing) of ADN traffic is coming from that $5 app.
- thebigkick 14y agoI find my HackerNode app is a much more fulfilling experience.
- aneth4 14y agoI'm an AppNet user, but pretty limited in frequency. The primary reason is that I want proper posts to facebook and don't want to post in two places. I would like to see apps like this have the option to cross-post to facebook and twitter. Ifttt fails because it does not allow proper link posts to facebook, and going through twitter to facebook results in truncated messages.
- DanHulton 14y agoBought it, have it sitting right above my Tweetbot app. That said, it really hides the Global stream, and I'm not really cool with that. There's all kinds of good stuff in there.
- lukeholder 14y agoserious yet seemingly silly question: What do i call tweeting in app.net? apping?
- dekz 14y agoposting? Like every other website out there except twitter. I posted on HN, I redditted this cat picture?
- lukeholder 14y agoMy point was probably more around branding. Posting is generic; you mean a blog post? Status Update? Tweets are known to be just 140 chars.
- 89a 14y agoTwapp.neting