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Can you cite any evidence of anybody being banned for the societal opinions they’ve expressed here?
by akerl_ 11mo ago
Can you cite any evidence of anybody being banned for the societal opinions they’ve expressed here?
- monero-xmr 11mo agoHN wants polite discussion which lends itself well to science and technology topics. Get farther away into history or politics where opinion comes in, then it becomes impossible to debate because arguments that disagree with the hive mind (upper middle class, intelligent, center-left technology professionals) get downvoted and flagged because of popularity. This just isn’t a site for arguing politics, if you do it too much with opinions different from the hive mind you get banned for disruptive behavior
- akerl_ 11mo agoDid you mean to post this as a reply elsewhere? You made the claim that people are banned for certain opinions and I asked for more information on that.
- monero-xmr 11mo agoI’m not going to cite evidence, the evidence is my lived experience posting controversial opinions here for years. Try it yourself and see!
- akerl_ 11mo agoExcept… you aren’t banned?
- monero-xmr 11mo agoYou will get banned if you speak too controversially, but the bigger issue is you get downvoted for wrong-think, but that’s the nature of HN and probably why it has survived so long
- akerl_ 11mo agoCan you cite any example of anyone being banned ever for voicing a controversial opinion?
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- ryandrake 11mo agoThese guys are never able to cite examples. Every time the conversation comes up, they fly in with a vague innuendo, "oh, you know those topics--I'm not going to say it!" plus a "trust me bro" and then fly off without actually getting specific.
- fragmede 11mo agohttps://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=%22we%20ban%20accounts%22%20dang&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... you'd have to do additional analysis to find which accounts stopped posting after the linked warnings though. It's not usually the opinion itself that's the problem, but that users with controversial opinions have other things going on, so the controversial opinion is often delivered in a “wake up sheeple” flamebait persecution complex “in smart and everyone here is an idiot” style, which isn’t conducive to constructive debate.
- akerl_ 11mo agoThe evidence there seems to make my point? Those people aren’t being warned for the content of their opinions, they’re being warned not to engage in flamewars or insults or other forms of incivility. My claim isn’t “nobody gets banned from HN”, it’s “nobody gets banned from HN for having unpopular opinions”. The parallel comment has very nearly invoked Godwin’s law, so I guess I’ll concede that if your opinion is “a group of people should be killed”, then yea, expressing that opinion would likely end in a ban. We can debate how much of that ban is for the opinion vs calling for the murder of other humans.
- mrguyorama 11mo ago
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