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In the UK we've had an authoritarian Conservative government for 14 years, followed by an even more authoritarian Labour government, which we'll have until 2029

by cbeach 11mo ago

In the UK we've had an authoritarian Conservative government for 14 years, followed by an even more authoritarian Labour government, which we'll have until 2029. In 2029 it's likely we'll have a more libertarian government: https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/#national-parliament-voting-intention https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/... Reform will repeal some of the awful legislation that's been passed over the last few years (e.g. Online Safety Act). They've been loud critics of government overreach. https://www.ft.com/content/886ee83a-02ab-48b6-b557-857a38f30c1d https://www.ft.com/content/886ee83a-02ab-48b6-b557-857a38f30...

jbstack 11mo ago
"a more libertarian government" As long as you are white British. If you're anything else you're probably going to be worse off under Farage. It's a shame that if you want to vote for someone with different policies to the two main parties, you have to accept that you are also voting for an outspoken racist.
- baiac 11mo ago
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  - exasperaited 11mo ago
    Net migration in the UK is falling, and fast. It grew under a party that is ideologically closer to Reform than the government currently in power.
    - cbeach 11mo ago
      Net migration is only falling because of record high numbers of British and European people emigrating, against a backdrop of huge (800K+) levels of gross immigration.
      - graemep 11mo ago
        Firstly, why do you lump British and European together? Because they are the same "race" in your eyes? Non-EU net migration has fallen sharply too. It proves what was always obvious to anyone who looked at it, that high net immigration was temporary, especially the peak post covid and the special scheme for Ukrainians.
        cbeach 11mo ago
        Levels of EU vs non-EU immigration has been a particular subject of interest for the UK before and after Brexit. And note also that the UK and EU share high-quality education systems, Western Judeo-Christian culture and Western-aligned geopolitics. Recent waves of immigration from countries in the Middle East and North Africa are importing wholly different culture, geopolitics, and crucially, we are importing from countries with measurably lower standard of literacy and numeracy. These are objective facts, and they are not criticisms or judgements on the character of those who are migrating. I would make exactly the same choices as our Pakistani, Somali and Eritrean friends, if I were in their position.
        exasperaited 11mo ago
        Half of Europe's cultural development was initiated by Muslims and the Renaissance started with Muslim scholars in Islamic Spain, which was Islamic for the lion's share of a millennium, leading to the hilarious fact that a state in the New World settled by Spanish-speaking settlers gets the "Calif" in its name from the muslim term for a leader due to it being so totally embedded in culture. But OK, yeah. Judeo-Christian.
        cbeach 11mo ago
        The only link between the Renaissance and Islam is this: When the Byzantine Empire fell to the Ottomans, many Greek scholars fled to Italy bringing: • Greek manuscripts • Knowledge of ancient philosophy • Classical Greek language expertise This boosted the revival of classical learning. The Renaissance had far more to do with the Catholic Church than it had with Islam, and I’m curious to know who it was that told you otherwise? https://chatgpt.com/s/t_692a2c6e0e588191ada9533927d72af4 https://chatgpt.com/s/t_692a2c6e0e588191ada9533927d72af4
    - ben_w 11mo ago
      IMO, statistical fluke, more likely a few years of delayed migrations post-pandemic got squeezed together and it's now back to the previous trend: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c246ndy63j9o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c246ndy63j9o
  - myrmidon 11mo ago
    Hard disagree on this. Immigration was the only realistic option to shield against demographic collapse and stabilize unskilled labor supply for decades, and it is no suprise that politicians took it. I honestly think that if politicians had blocked this (reform style) in 2000, the resulting economic slowdown and increasing cost for labor intensive products would've seen them voted out in short order. I do agree that negative consequences of the approach were played down/underestimated/neglected, but painting it as pure uncaring negative is just disingenuous.
    - baiac 11mo ago
      "stabilising unskilled labour" in this context means dumping the salaries of the natives, making it so unskilled sectors no longer provide a living wage.
      - myrmidon 11mo ago
        Sure, but local supply of labor was looking even worse than now back then, and cost of labor intensive stuff like daycare, nursing homes/residential care have gone through the roof, still. Just look at how Brexit alone affected lorry driver wages; if you cut immigration 25 years ago, you'd have seen the same effect across multiple sectors magnifying each other (because labor supply is simply insufficient), and there is a lot of people that would have suffered from higher costs in all those sectors without getting any compensation. As a "sanity check" for this: If the UK economy did not "need" immigrant labor, you would expect significant unemployment and very high difficulty in finding unskilled labor jobs. Neither is the case.
- hn_throw2025 11mo ago
  I’ve seen white British a couple of times in this thread. Reform policy is being drawn up by a team that’s led by a British Pakistani : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_Yusuf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_Yusuf
  - jbstack 11mo ago
    Reform is also headed by a guy who regularly used phrases like "Hitler was right", "gas them all", and "go home, Paki" as an 18 year old (confirmed by 20+ former classmates). Ordinarily we might give him the benefit of the doubt: maybe he's matured and grown up since then. But the fact that he's called all of those classmates liars says that either they are all liars, or he is dishonest about his racism.
    - hn_throw2025 10mo ago
      13 year old, actually. The things said were truly disgusting. I wouldn’t presume to speak for the Jewish community, but I would expect that they feel less threatened by something a child said in a playground during the 1970s, but rather the rampant antisemitism that has risen in our society, spearheaded by the toxic alliance of the hard left and the Islamists. Those are the ones who are assaulting Jewish people on the streets and hanging around Synagogues to “demonstrate”, or rather to intimidate them.
  - foldr 11mo ago
    There are plenty of instances of Reform politicians saying things that are just outright racist (e.g. Sarah Pochin) and receiving no real reprimand from the party leadership. The only people not seeing the racism are the people who don’t want to.
Ylpertnodi 11mo ago
> Reform will repeal some of the awful legislation that's been passed over the last few years (e.g. Online Safety Act). They've been loud critics of government overreach. A lot of politicians change when they get in power.
forgotoldacc 11mo ago
America also has a party that always runs on the idea of small government and restoring rights to the people. Every time they get power, they do the exact opposite.
- cbeach 11mo ago
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  - 71bw 11mo ago
    The far-right Reform party[1]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_UK
    - cbeach 11mo ago
      I wonder if your statement was ironic, as the article you posted does not describe Reform as far-right? From the article: > In March 2024, the BBC called the party far-right but soon retracted its statement and apologised to Reform UK, writing that describing the party as far-right "fell short of our usual editorial standards".[219] Commenting on the incident, the professor of politics Tim Bale wrote that labelling Reform UK as far-right is unhelpful, and that it "causes too visceral a reaction and at the same time is too broad to be meaningful". Bale noted the importance of distinguishing between the "extreme right" and "populist radical right", and stated that parties described as far right should instead be "more precisely labelled".[220] Reform UK itself rejects the descriptor, and has threatened legal action against media using it.[221] In May 2025, Ross Clark, writing in The Spectator, argued Reform is "now a left-wing party", by attracting disillusioned Labour voters with stances on restoring welfare benefits, nationalising the steel industry with 50% of utilities and increasing government spending (including the NHS).[222]
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- anonym29 11mo ago
  >America also has a party that always runs on the idea of small government and restoring rights to the people. Every time they get power, they do the exact opposite. You seem to be confused. The Libertarian Party never gets any power. The closest we get is representatives like Ron Paul, Justin Amash, and Thomas Massie, who run as Republicans (which are NOT the party of small government, despite what you may have been told) while acting much more like Libertarians. Thomas Massie in particular is famous for frequently and routinely standing up against Trump, much to Trump's chagrin.
exasperaited 11mo ago
> In 2029 it's likely we'll have a more libertarian government Haha you're so funny. If Reform get from, what is it right now, five -- or four, or six, depending on how the wind blows — MPs to 326 MPs, which is enough to secure the majority they think they are getting, then libertarian is not what that government will be. It will be populist, white and significantly authoritarian, because pure tabloid authoritarian thuggery is the only possible strategy that could cause a swing larger than any in history, against two parties (labour and liberal democrat) who currently hold 472 seats and represent a sort of centrist blob between them. And this is to say nothing of the challenge they will face finding 326 non-crazy, credible candidates for 326 very different parliamentary elections. And to say nothing of the foreign influence scandal that currently engulfs senior Reform figures or the catastrophic issues already affecting Reform councils like Kent. Do you think Reform could succeed without Farage? And do you think Farage's reputation is going to somehow be improved by the Nathan Gill situation? I accept they will be the largest minority. But the parliamentary maths to get to an outright majority is really extreme; the system does not support such things easily. Maybe they will get to largest minority and then campaign for PR/AV/STV, and maybe finally people will understand something like it is needed. But Farage will be a lot older in that election. (It surprises me to see people who are so keen to believe that a council election wave is necessarily predictive of a national election wave because, what, somehow everything is different now? Why is it different?)
- cbeach 11mo ago
  > libertarian is not what that government will be How can you be so sure? Why do you assume that everything that the Reform chairman, Zia Yusuf (head of policy) is lies? What, from his history, suggests that he is a liar? > catastrophic issues already affecting Reform councils like Kent. A small number of councillors left, but KCC is still a strong Reform majority. Councillors come and go throughout the year (just look at the constant stream of council by-elections), so to call Kent a "catastrophe" is hyperbole. > It will be populist, white and significantly authoritarian Populist yes. But I've never understood why popular polices get such a bad rep in a supposed democracy? White? So what? Although it's rapidly changing thanks to Tory/Labour policies, the UK remains a majority white country. Why is politicians' skin colour an issue in your mind? "Significantly authoritarian" how? Can you name an "authoritarian" policy in Reform's last manifesto? > Do you think Reform could succeed without Farage? Yes. Zia Yusuf is an extraordinary man, and my money would be on him becoming the leader when Farage inevitably steps down. And your concerns about white politicians will hopefully be soothed when a second-generation Sri Lankan is our Reform prime minister. https://www.youtube.com/@ZiaYusufOfficial https://www.youtube.com/@ZiaYusufOfficial > the parliamentary maths to get to an outright majority is really extreme; the system does not support such things easily. For that to happen, you need a strong i.e. 30%+ share, and you need numerous opposing parties with similar policies, and all polling at similar levels. That's EXACTLY what's happening, and the electoral calculus puts Reform on a strong majority (low = 325, high = 426) https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/#national-parliament-voting-intention https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/... https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html
jacquesm 11mo ago
It is a massive assumption that reform will win the elections.
- hn_throw2025 11mo ago
  I think it’s plausible that the UK electorate are sick of switching between Tories and Labour for the last hundred years, especially as they have become indistinguishable in many respects. They were held back because there wasn’t a plausible alternative that had a hope of being elected. Reform has been leading the polls for nearly all this year, so let’s check in a year to see where they stand. But Labour (especially) and the Tories are not going to see an upswing any time soon. The problems in the country (mostly economic due to policy) continue, and their supporters are doomed to the madness of doing the same thing but expecting different results.
  - mapt 11mo ago
    While I'm sure you know much more than I do about UK politics, it seems like some systemic factor pushes both Tories and Labour and whoever else comes close to power, well to the right of their respective voters. In the US, that factor would be campaign contributions and an extremely well-funded conservative propaganda/patronage machine on a war footing. In the UK, is it all about media ownership or something?
    - exasperaited 11mo ago
      > In the UK, is it all about media ownership or something? Yes.
    - cbeach 11mo ago
      The media plays a big role in election outcomes. The Murdoch empire used to have an oversized influence, but since Murdoch exited Sky UK, that's been on the wane. The Sun (which helped Labour's Tony Blair win his landslide) is still a Murdoch enterprise, but it hasn't really moved with the times, and newer media-savvy outlets are starting to get mindshare. GBNews launched in 2021 with a strong anti-establishment mandate. The growth in its audience surprised everyone, surpassing both BBC News and Sky in viewership. For four consecutive months (July-October 2025) GBNews has been Britain's number one news channel (Source: BARB). Crucially it also has 2.5bn views on YouTube since launch. The establishment try to write off and condescend GBNews, but in doing so they condescend the large and growing section of the UK public that GBNews represents (e.g. for example - people on both the Left and Right who are frustrated with 110,000 undocumented migrants entering the UK over the last three years, many of whom have been put up in hotels at taxpayer expense). As the elite condescend and push away large swathes of the population, they are creating increasing loyalty toward GBNews, and by extension, the Reform Party.
yyyk 11mo ago
3-4 years is political eternity.

by cbeach 11mo ago

jbstack 11mo ago

"a more libertarian government" As long as you are white British. If you're anything else you're probably going to be worse off under Farage. It's a shame that if you want to vote for someone with different policies to the two main parties, you have to accept that you are also voting for an outspoken racist.

baiac 11mo ago
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- exasperaited 11mo ago
  Net migration in the UK is falling, and fast. It grew under a party that is ideologically closer to Reform than the government currently in power.
  - cbeach 11mo ago
    Net migration is only falling because of record high numbers of British and European people emigrating, against a backdrop of huge (800K+) levels of gross immigration.
    - graemep 11mo ago
      Firstly, why do you lump British and European together? Because they are the same "race" in your eyes? Non-EU net migration has fallen sharply too. It proves what was always obvious to anyone who looked at it, that high net immigration was temporary, especially the peak post covid and the special scheme for Ukrainians.
      - cbeach 11mo ago
        Levels of EU vs non-EU immigration has been a particular subject of interest for the UK before and after Brexit. And note also that the UK and EU share high-quality education systems, Western Judeo-Christian culture and Western-aligned geopolitics. Recent waves of immigration from countries in the Middle East and North Africa are importing wholly different culture, geopolitics, and crucially, we are importing from countries with measurably lower standard of literacy and numeracy. These are objective facts, and they are not criticisms or judgements on the character of those who are migrating. I would make exactly the same choices as our Pakistani, Somali and Eritrean friends, if I were in their position.
        exasperaited 11mo ago
        Half of Europe's cultural development was initiated by Muslims and the Renaissance started with Muslim scholars in Islamic Spain, which was Islamic for the lion's share of a millennium, leading to the hilarious fact that a state in the New World settled by Spanish-speaking settlers gets the "Calif" in its name from the muslim term for a leader due to it being so totally embedded in culture. But OK, yeah. Judeo-Christian.
        cbeach 11mo ago
        The only link between the Renaissance and Islam is this: When the Byzantine Empire fell to the Ottomans, many Greek scholars fled to Italy bringing: • Greek manuscripts • Knowledge of ancient philosophy • Classical Greek language expertise This boosted the revival of classical learning. The Renaissance had far more to do with the Catholic Church than it had with Islam, and I’m curious to know who it was that told you otherwise? https://chatgpt.com/s/t_692a2c6e0e588191ada9533927d72af4 https://chatgpt.com/s/t_692a2c6e0e588191ada9533927d72af4
  - ben_w 11mo ago
    IMO, statistical fluke, more likely a few years of delayed migrations post-pandemic got squeezed together and it's now back to the previous trend: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c246ndy63j9o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c246ndy63j9o
- myrmidon 11mo ago
  Hard disagree on this. Immigration was the only realistic option to shield against demographic collapse and stabilize unskilled labor supply for decades, and it is no suprise that politicians took it. I honestly think that if politicians had blocked this (reform style) in 2000, the resulting economic slowdown and increasing cost for labor intensive products would've seen them voted out in short order. I do agree that negative consequences of the approach were played down/underestimated/neglected, but painting it as pure uncaring negative is just disingenuous.
  - baiac 11mo ago
    "stabilising unskilled labour" in this context means dumping the salaries of the natives, making it so unskilled sectors no longer provide a living wage.
    - myrmidon 11mo ago
      Sure, but local supply of labor was looking even worse than now back then, and cost of labor intensive stuff like daycare, nursing homes/residential care have gone through the roof, still. Just look at how Brexit alone affected lorry driver wages; if you cut immigration 25 years ago, you'd have seen the same effect across multiple sectors magnifying each other (because labor supply is simply insufficient), and there is a lot of people that would have suffered from higher costs in all those sectors without getting any compensation. As a "sanity check" for this: If the UK economy did not "need" immigrant labor, you would expect significant unemployment and very high difficulty in finding unskilled labor jobs. Neither is the case.
hn_throw2025 11mo ago
I’ve seen white British a couple of times in this thread. Reform policy is being drawn up by a team that’s led by a British Pakistani : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_Yusuf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zia_Yusuf
- jbstack 11mo ago
  Reform is also headed by a guy who regularly used phrases like "Hitler was right", "gas them all", and "go home, Paki" as an 18 year old (confirmed by 20+ former classmates). Ordinarily we might give him the benefit of the doubt: maybe he's matured and grown up since then. But the fact that he's called all of those classmates liars says that either they are all liars, or he is dishonest about his racism.
  - hn_throw2025 10mo ago
    13 year old, actually. The things said were truly disgusting. I wouldn’t presume to speak for the Jewish community, but I would expect that they feel less threatened by something a child said in a playground during the 1970s, but rather the rampant antisemitism that has risen in our society, spearheaded by the toxic alliance of the hard left and the Islamists. Those are the ones who are assaulting Jewish people on the streets and hanging around Synagogues to “demonstrate”, or rather to intimidate them.
- foldr 11mo ago
  There are plenty of instances of Reform politicians saying things that are just outright racist (e.g. Sarah Pochin) and receiving no real reprimand from the party leadership. The only people not seeing the racism are the people who don’t want to.

Ylpertnodi 11mo ago

> Reform will repeal some of the awful legislation that's been passed over the last few years (e.g. Online Safety Act). They've been loud critics of government overreach. A lot of politicians change when they get in power.

forgotoldacc 11mo ago

America also has a party that always runs on the idea of small government and restoring rights to the people. Every time they get power, they do the exact opposite.

cbeach 11mo ago
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- 71bw 11mo ago
  The far-right Reform party[1]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_UK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reform_UK
  - cbeach 11mo ago
    I wonder if your statement was ironic, as the article you posted does not describe Reform as far-right? From the article: > In March 2024, the BBC called the party far-right but soon retracted its statement and apologised to Reform UK, writing that describing the party as far-right "fell short of our usual editorial standards".[219] Commenting on the incident, the professor of politics Tim Bale wrote that labelling Reform UK as far-right is unhelpful, and that it "causes too visceral a reaction and at the same time is too broad to be meaningful". Bale noted the importance of distinguishing between the "extreme right" and "populist radical right", and stated that parties described as far right should instead be "more precisely labelled".[220] Reform UK itself rejects the descriptor, and has threatened legal action against media using it.[221] In May 2025, Ross Clark, writing in The Spectator, argued Reform is "now a left-wing party", by attracting disillusioned Labour voters with stances on restoring welfare benefits, nationalising the steel industry with 50% of utilities and increasing government spending (including the NHS).[222]
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anonym29 11mo ago
>America also has a party that always runs on the idea of small government and restoring rights to the people. Every time they get power, they do the exact opposite. You seem to be confused. The Libertarian Party never gets any power. The closest we get is representatives like Ron Paul, Justin Amash, and Thomas Massie, who run as Republicans (which are NOT the party of small government, despite what you may have been told) while acting much more like Libertarians. Thomas Massie in particular is famous for frequently and routinely standing up against Trump, much to Trump's chagrin.

exasperaited 11mo ago

> In 2029 it's likely we'll have a more libertarian government Haha you're so funny. If Reform get from, what is it right now, five -- or four, or six, depending on how the wind blows — MPs to 326 MPs, which is enough to secure the majority they think they are getting, then libertarian is not what that government will be. It will be populist, white and significantly authoritarian, because pure tabloid authoritarian thuggery is the only possible strategy that could cause a swing larger than any in history, against two parties (labour and liberal democrat) who currently hold 472 seats and represent a sort of centrist blob between them. And this is to say nothing of the challenge they will face finding 326 non-crazy, credible candidates for 326 very different parliamentary elections. And to say nothing of the foreign influence scandal that currently engulfs senior Reform figures or the catastrophic issues already affecting Reform councils like Kent. Do you think Reform could succeed without Farage? And do you think Farage's reputation is going to somehow be improved by the Nathan Gill situation? I accept they will be the largest minority. But the parliamentary maths to get to an outright majority is really extreme; the system does not support such things easily. Maybe they will get to largest minority and then campaign for PR/AV/STV, and maybe finally people will understand something like it is needed. But Farage will be a lot older in that election. (It surprises me to see people who are so keen to believe that a council election wave is necessarily predictive of a national election wave because, what, somehow everything is different now? Why is it different?)

cbeach 11mo ago
> libertarian is not what that government will be How can you be so sure? Why do you assume that everything that the Reform chairman, Zia Yusuf (head of policy) is lies? What, from his history, suggests that he is a liar? > catastrophic issues already affecting Reform councils like Kent. A small number of councillors left, but KCC is still a strong Reform majority. Councillors come and go throughout the year (just look at the constant stream of council by-elections), so to call Kent a "catastrophe" is hyperbole. > It will be populist, white and significantly authoritarian Populist yes. But I've never understood why popular polices get such a bad rep in a supposed democracy? White? So what? Although it's rapidly changing thanks to Tory/Labour policies, the UK remains a majority white country. Why is politicians' skin colour an issue in your mind? "Significantly authoritarian" how? Can you name an "authoritarian" policy in Reform's last manifesto? > Do you think Reform could succeed without Farage? Yes. Zia Yusuf is an extraordinary man, and my money would be on him becoming the leader when Farage inevitably steps down. And your concerns about white politicians will hopefully be soothed when a second-generation Sri Lankan is our Reform prime minister. https://www.youtube.com/@ZiaYusufOfficial https://www.youtube.com/@ZiaYusufOfficial > the parliamentary maths to get to an outright majority is really extreme; the system does not support such things easily. For that to happen, you need a strong i.e. 30%+ share, and you need numerous opposing parties with similar policies, and all polling at similar levels. That's EXACTLY what's happening, and the electoral calculus puts Reform on a strong majority (low = 325, high = 426) https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/#national-parliament-voting-intention https://www.politico.eu/europe-poll-of-polls/united-kingdom/... https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/prediction_main.html

jacquesm 11mo ago

It is a massive assumption that reform will win the elections.

hn_throw2025 11mo ago
I think it’s plausible that the UK electorate are sick of switching between Tories and Labour for the last hundred years, especially as they have become indistinguishable in many respects. They were held back because there wasn’t a plausible alternative that had a hope of being elected. Reform has been leading the polls for nearly all this year, so let’s check in a year to see where they stand. But Labour (especially) and the Tories are not going to see an upswing any time soon. The problems in the country (mostly economic due to policy) continue, and their supporters are doomed to the madness of doing the same thing but expecting different results.
- mapt 11mo ago
  While I'm sure you know much more than I do about UK politics, it seems like some systemic factor pushes both Tories and Labour and whoever else comes close to power, well to the right of their respective voters. In the US, that factor would be campaign contributions and an extremely well-funded conservative propaganda/patronage machine on a war footing. In the UK, is it all about media ownership or something?
  - exasperaited 11mo ago
    > In the UK, is it all about media ownership or something? Yes.
  - cbeach 11mo ago
    The media plays a big role in election outcomes. The Murdoch empire used to have an oversized influence, but since Murdoch exited Sky UK, that's been on the wane. The Sun (which helped Labour's Tony Blair win his landslide) is still a Murdoch enterprise, but it hasn't really moved with the times, and newer media-savvy outlets are starting to get mindshare. GBNews launched in 2021 with a strong anti-establishment mandate. The growth in its audience surprised everyone, surpassing both BBC News and Sky in viewership. For four consecutive months (July-October 2025) GBNews has been Britain's number one news channel (Source: BARB). Crucially it also has 2.5bn views on YouTube since launch. The establishment try to write off and condescend GBNews, but in doing so they condescend the large and growing section of the UK public that GBNews represents (e.g. for example - people on both the Left and Right who are frustrated with 110,000 undocumented migrants entering the UK over the last three years, many of whom have been put up in hotels at taxpayer expense). As the elite condescend and push away large swathes of the population, they are creating increasing loyalty toward GBNews, and by extension, the Reform Party.

yyyk 11mo ago

3-4 years is political eternity.