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I guess learning "someone elses' computer isn't yours" is a lesson best taught early on? I know fellow millenials that use their work computers for personal re

I guess learning "someone elses' computer isn't yours" is a lesson best taught early on? I know fellow millenials that use their work computers for personal reasons. And thats some of the stupidest things you can do. Dont use work or school hardware for personal reasons. I'd also say, if you're running Windows you're also surveilled to hell and back as well. Linux is basically the only platform thats not. And as to larger surveillance, its pervading everywhere. Work. School. Driving (Flock). Commercial web. "Free" services. I'm glad I grew up in one of the last generations that wasn't habitually online. I did loads of "troublesome behavior", that never followed me. Now, some thing will be captured with a smartphone and memorialized forever. And that... Alas. (Old man yelling at cloud, I guess?)

zrail 11mo ago
Yep. I treat work computers as hostile entities. They are always on an isolated guest SSID and VLAN and I never use them for personal tasks. When my kids start bringing school-owned hardware home that's getting the same treatment.
NoMoreNicksLeft 11mo ago
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- immibis 11mo ago
  Sounds like you're saying public school is fascism. Is that a correct interpretation of this comment?
  - JuniperMesos 11mo ago
    Only in the broadest sense of the word fascist to mean "something I don't like". The public school system can be bad without it being bad in a way that precisely pattern-matches to Mussolini's control of Italy.
    - immibis 11mo ago
      Fascism isn't a precise pattern-match to Mussolini's Italy, it's a vague region of concept space which contains Mussolini's Italy, Hitler's Germany, and many others.
      - mystraline 11mo ago
        Calling public school fascist is likely a exaggeration. But isn't good either. Public schools are highly authoritarian. Students have low/no rights and are at the behest of administration. Student's property is routinely confiscated/stolen due to some "rules". School rules are capriciously applied, including nonsensical rules. Schools claim parentis in loco, but take no responsibility to the 'Lord of the Flies' bullying situation either. Many times, bullies get away with it. 0 tolerance policies are 0 thought policies. Students are compelled to attend school on threat of jail for them and parents. And somehow even as "substitute parents", they're not even required to feed them?! Much of the contracting companies serving public schools also serve the prison industry, for largely the same reasons. For a country that leans towards a democratic republic, the schools teach for first 12 years an authoritarian dictatorship. Doesnt seem healthy at all for a society.
      - NoMoreNicksLeft 11mo ago
        It contains Mussolini's Italy, Hitler's Germany, and those who think illegal immigrants should have to go home.
WalterBright 11mo ago
Laptops are so cheap these days there's no reason to not buy a separate laptop for personal use and only use the work laptop for work. Also put a sticker over the camera.

zrail 11mo ago

Yep. I treat work computers as hostile entities. They are always on an isolated guest SSID and VLAN and I never use them for personal tasks. When my kids start bringing school-owned hardware home that's getting the same treatment.

NoMoreNicksLeft 11mo ago

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immibis 11mo ago
Sounds like you're saying public school is fascism. Is that a correct interpretation of this comment?
- JuniperMesos 11mo ago
  Only in the broadest sense of the word fascist to mean "something I don't like". The public school system can be bad without it being bad in a way that precisely pattern-matches to Mussolini's control of Italy.
  - immibis 11mo ago
    Fascism isn't a precise pattern-match to Mussolini's Italy, it's a vague region of concept space which contains Mussolini's Italy, Hitler's Germany, and many others.
    - mystraline 11mo ago
      Calling public school fascist is likely a exaggeration. But isn't good either. Public schools are highly authoritarian. Students have low/no rights and are at the behest of administration. Student's property is routinely confiscated/stolen due to some "rules". School rules are capriciously applied, including nonsensical rules. Schools claim parentis in loco, but take no responsibility to the 'Lord of the Flies' bullying situation either. Many times, bullies get away with it. 0 tolerance policies are 0 thought policies. Students are compelled to attend school on threat of jail for them and parents. And somehow even as "substitute parents", they're not even required to feed them?! Much of the contracting companies serving public schools also serve the prison industry, for largely the same reasons. For a country that leans towards a democratic republic, the schools teach for first 12 years an authoritarian dictatorship. Doesnt seem healthy at all for a society.
    - NoMoreNicksLeft 11mo ago
      It contains Mussolini's Italy, Hitler's Germany, and those who think illegal immigrants should have to go home.

WalterBright 11mo ago

Laptops are so cheap these days there's no reason to not buy a separate laptop for personal use and only use the work laptop for work. Also put a sticker over the camera.