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Drug addiction, loneliness and depression are masculinity instead of mental health problems? What about suicide?
by watwut 1y ago
Drug addiction, loneliness and depression are masculinity instead of mental health problems? What about suicide?
- mosura 1y agoAll entirely standard male behaviors. Just look at history for 30 seconds.
- Starman_Jones 1y agoYou should probably reconsider putting loneliness and depression on a pedestal here.
- mosura 1y agoWhere is this happening? The whole point is calling them “mental health problems” infers there is something systematically wrong with them as opposed to the obvious result of putting men in modern society.
- watwut 1y agoPreviously you said they are basically traditional masculinity and what men always were. Now they are result of modern society?
- mosura 1y agoA man lives by himself in the woods: is he lonely or depressed?
- Starman_Jones 1y ago> ...loneliness and depression... > All entirely standard male behaviors
- mosura 1y ago> putting loneliness and depression on a pedestal here Where is this happening? Pointing out something is entirely normal, standard and expected is in not putting it on a pedestal. You want to condemn them too, and I won’t. Their manifestation is a sign of other problems, as shown through history, and to paint them as mental illness is a way to avoid the other problems.
- watwut 1y agoMental health issues existing in the past does not mean they are not mental health issues. Besides, most men were neither alcoholics, depressed nor lonely. Loneliness in particular is neither specifically masculine (like, is not at all specifically masculine, neither in history nor now). Nor is there a reason to believe was more or equal amount of it in the past ... when men were part of in person group pretty much regardless of what they were doing.