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Yes lower income boys are hit way harder, but it's not like the issue disappears at the higher end. > 72 percent of boys from households earning $100,000 or mo

Yes lower income boys are hit way harder, but it's not like the issue disappears at the higher end. > 72 percent of boys from households earning $100,000 or more reported having a male mentor for schoolwork. > A similar trend appeared regarding relationship advice. Only 45 percent of boys in the lowest income group had a male mentor for relationships. This compares to 67 percent of boys in the highest income group. Even 30% of rich kids don't have access to a proper male role model, those are terrible numbers!

fzeroracer 11mo ago
$100,000 isn't even 'rich' nowdays, that's below middle class especially if we're talking about an actual family unit. I can guarantee that if this research further stratified things into $100-200k, and $200k+ you would see the results continue to improve as people cross the threshold into middle class. This survey can be seen as comparing people in poverty level income vs everyone else.
- sirwhinesalot 11mo ago
  A lot of the lower income kids are from single parent homes (which is why they can't cross the $100.000 threshold), those will obviously have less access to a male role model. If you correct for that the numbers would likely get closer, not further apart.
  - CalRobert 11mo ago
    I assume you mean single parent but housing scarcity does indeed relate to precarity.
    - sirwhinesalot 11mo ago
      Yes, sorry, I meant single parent. I don't mean to fight against the idea that income is correlated to the problem, just that "lack of male role models" cannot be reduced to income inequality.
squigz 11mo ago
Is the assumption that 100% - or even close to it - of boys need a male mentor? How much of the remaining 28% have a female mentor? Also, that specifies "for schoolwork." Surely there's many boys that have a male they can turn to for other things if not necessarily schoolwork

fzeroracer 11mo ago

$100,000 isn't even 'rich' nowdays, that's below middle class especially if we're talking about an actual family unit. I can guarantee that if this research further stratified things into $100-200k, and $200k+ you would see the results continue to improve as people cross the threshold into middle class. This survey can be seen as comparing people in poverty level income vs everyone else.

sirwhinesalot 11mo ago
A lot of the lower income kids are from single parent homes (which is why they can't cross the $100.000 threshold), those will obviously have less access to a male role model. If you correct for that the numbers would likely get closer, not further apart.
- CalRobert 11mo ago
  I assume you mean single parent but housing scarcity does indeed relate to precarity.
  - sirwhinesalot 11mo ago
    Yes, sorry, I meant single parent. I don't mean to fight against the idea that income is correlated to the problem, just that "lack of male role models" cannot be reduced to income inequality.

squigz 11mo ago

Is the assumption that 100% - or even close to it - of boys need a male mentor? How much of the remaining 28% have a female mentor? Also, that specifies "for schoolwork." Surely there's many boys that have a male they can turn to for other things if not necessarily schoolwork