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I'm strictly talking about the 10-line Zig PR above. Well-documented and tested.

whilenot-dev 10mo ago
That's certainly a way to avoid questions... I mean sure, but everybody else is talking about how your humongous PRs are a burden to review.
- joelreymont 10mo ago
  Which is something I agreed with and apologized for, and admitted was somewhat of a PR stunt. Now, what's your question?
  - globnomulous 10mo ago
    > admitted was somewhat of a PR stunt. You should be blocked, banned, and ignored. > Now, what was your question? Your attitude stinks. So does your complete lack of consideration for others.
  - School-Cotton 10mo ago
    You are admitting to wasting people’s time on purpose and then can’t understand why they don’t want to deal with you or give you the benefit of the doubt in the future?
  - deleted 10mo ago
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globnomulous 10mo ago
It's worth asking yourself something: people have written substantial responses to your questions in this thread. Here you answered four paragraphs with two fucking lines referencing and repeating what you've already said. How do you expect someone to react? How can you expect anybody to take seriously anything you say, write, or commit when you obviously have so little ability, or willingness, to engage with others in a manner that shows respect and thought? I really, truly don't understand. This isn't just about manners, mores, or self-reflection. The inability or unwillingness to think about your behavior or its likely reception are stupefying. You need to stop 'contribiting' to public projects and stop talking to people in forums until you figure this stuff out.
- edstarch 10mo ago
  >I really, truly don't understand. This isn't just about manners, mores, or self-reflection. The inability or unwillingness to think about your behavior or its likely reception are stupefying. Shower thought: what does a typical conversation with an LLM look like? You ask it a question, or you give a command. The model spends some time writing a large wall of text, or performing some large amount of work, probably asks some follow up questions. Most of the output is repetitive slop so the user scans for the direct answer to the question, or checks if the tests work, promptly ignores the follow-ups and proceeds to the next task. Then the user goes to an online forum and carries on behaving the same way: all posts are instrumental, all of the replies are just directing, shepherding, shaping and cajoling the other users to his desired end (giving him recognition and a job). I'm probably reading too much into this one dude but perhaps daily interaction with LLMs also changes how one interacts with other text based entities in their lives.
  - joelreymont 10mo ago
    I'll gladly discuss at length things that are near and dear to my heart. Facing random people in the public court of opinion is not one of them! Also, there's long-form writing in my blog posts, Twitter and Reddit.
    - aiahs 10mo ago
      Well if you wanna contribute (at least as a proxy) to OSS, you need to deal with people and make them want to deal with you. If you don't do that, no PR, regardless of how perfect it is, will ever be accepted. If you're so sure that your strategy for the future of development is correct, then prove it by building your own project, where you can fully decide which contributions are accepted, even those which are 100% ai generated. This should be easy, right? Once your project gains wide spread adoption, you can show everybody that you've been right all along. Until then, it's just empty talk.
      - LoganDark 10mo ago
        That's exactly their plan, it seems.

That's certainly a way to avoid questions... I mean sure, but everybody else is talking about how your humongous PRs are a burden to review.

joelreymont 10mo ago
Which is something I agreed with and apologized for, and admitted was somewhat of a PR stunt. Now, what's your question?
- globnomulous 10mo ago
  > admitted was somewhat of a PR stunt. You should be blocked, banned, and ignored. > Now, what was your question? Your attitude stinks. So does your complete lack of consideration for others.
- School-Cotton 10mo ago
  You are admitting to wasting people’s time on purpose and then can’t understand why they don’t want to deal with you or give you the benefit of the doubt in the future?
- deleted 10mo ago
  [deleted]

globnomulous 10mo ago

It's worth asking yourself something: people have written substantial responses to your questions in this thread. Here you answered four paragraphs with two fucking lines referencing and repeating what you've already said. How do you expect someone to react? How can you expect anybody to take seriously anything you say, write, or commit when you obviously have so little ability, or willingness, to engage with others in a manner that shows respect and thought? I really, truly don't understand. This isn't just about manners, mores, or self-reflection. The inability or unwillingness to think about your behavior or its likely reception are stupefying. You need to stop 'contribiting' to public projects and stop talking to people in forums until you figure this stuff out.

edstarch 10mo ago
>I really, truly don't understand. This isn't just about manners, mores, or self-reflection. The inability or unwillingness to think about your behavior or its likely reception are stupefying. Shower thought: what does a typical conversation with an LLM look like? You ask it a question, or you give a command. The model spends some time writing a large wall of text, or performing some large amount of work, probably asks some follow up questions. Most of the output is repetitive slop so the user scans for the direct answer to the question, or checks if the tests work, promptly ignores the follow-ups and proceeds to the next task. Then the user goes to an online forum and carries on behaving the same way: all posts are instrumental, all of the replies are just directing, shepherding, shaping and cajoling the other users to his desired end (giving him recognition and a job). I'm probably reading too much into this one dude but perhaps daily interaction with LLMs also changes how one interacts with other text based entities in their lives.
- joelreymont 10mo ago
  I'll gladly discuss at length things that are near and dear to my heart. Facing random people in the public court of opinion is not one of them! Also, there's long-form writing in my blog posts, Twitter and Reddit.
  - aiahs 10mo ago
    Well if you wanna contribute (at least as a proxy) to OSS, you need to deal with people and make them want to deal with you. If you don't do that, no PR, regardless of how perfect it is, will ever be accepted. If you're so sure that your strategy for the future of development is correct, then prove it by building your own project, where you can fully decide which contributions are accepted, even those which are 100% ai generated. This should be easy, right? Once your project gains wide spread adoption, you can show everybody that you've been right all along. Until then, it's just empty talk.
    - LoganDark 10mo ago
      That's exactly their plan, it seems.