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As far as I know, it's not really on the app developers, after a while Apple requires them to switch to a newer "target" build if they want to push out an updat
by jovantho 11mo ago
As far as I know, it's not really on the app developers, after a while Apple requires them to switch to a newer "target" build if they want to push out an update. Currently, the minimum target iOS version if you're submitting an app to the app store is iOS 18.
And additionally, even if there once was a compatible version, Apple only lets end users download it if they have previously purchased/downloaded the app.
In my opinion, this is almost fully Apple's fault
- ryandrake 11mo agoI'm on iOS 15 and still regularly get updates for a handful of apps. How are they doing it?
- selectodude 11mo agoYour app must run on iOS 18 but you can drop features to get it to support as old of an iOS as you want.
- xp84 11mo agoThat’s not true, watch the video here to see why not: https://youtu.be/WXqVV8_GORE https://youtu.be/WXqVV8_GORE TL;DW 1. you must use current Xcode to submit to the App Store 2. Current Xcode only supports a short list of the most recent iOS SDKs as targets 3. Therefore you can’t make a build with an older Xcode to submit, and you can’t make a build that supports say, iOS 15, with current Xcode. The video highlights a complete hack which can for now be used to make builds that target older SDKs, but Apple could change their systems to break that at any time, and in fact the latest iOSs don’t use these device support files that he shows are the key to the hack. So while you can do this now for old iOS, when 26 is too outdated for Apple to want you to target, this hack won’t work to bring it back.
- xp84 11mo agoThis video was very informative on how Apple deliberately blocks developers’ ability to update an app without removing support for older iOS and an unsupported undocumented workaround the creator has noticed which at least momentarily works to work around it: https://youtu.be/WXqVV8_GORE https://youtu.be/WXqVV8_GORE
- dagmx 11mo agoYou’re conflating target version with minimum supported version. There aren’t requirements to update the minimum. They’re independent. There might be limitations on what APIs are still available though in Xcode if they’re removed after a deprecation period however. You can use the latest SDK, and if you don’t use any new APIs, your app will continue to deploy to whatever minimum you have set. If you want to use the new APIs, you can put their use behind availability checks. It’s just that at some point, as a dev, you want to stop testing on older devices and you want to stop branching your code for OS versions that are a minuscule fraction of the active user base. The ROI changes quickly.
- saagarjha 11mo agoXcode occasionally bumps the minimum will compile for without complaint.
- ryandrake 11mo agoYes, but even with the current latest SDK and latest Xcode, iOS 15 can be set as the minimum supported version.
- dagmx 11mo agoWhich, importantly means you can support devices back to the iPhone 6S that is a decade old at this point.
- saagarjha 11mo agoWe target older than that and it’s miserable.
- kasabali 10mo agoiOS 15 is like what, 4 years old? it's ridiculously short. (yeah, I know a device running ios 15 was also supported before being updated to that version, but it's still short)
- ryandrake 11mo ago