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I think it's a breath of fresh air. Don't want to be called out like this then stop fucking up.

by MarcelOlsz 11mo ago

petersellers 11mo ago
I'm sure getting called a monkey will stop them from ever making a mistake again.
- teo_zero 11mo ago
  If this was true, teachers and trainers would have the easiest job in the world: just insulting their pupils would stop them from failing an exam, race or whatever again.
  - ternaryoperator 11mo ago
    The comment is clearly sarcasm.
patates 11mo ago
I could try to explain that most jobs are way more nuanced than just 'failing and deserving to be called a monkey' or 'not failing.' Or, I could just call you names for not seeing that, you could call me names back, and we can keep doing this forever.
- Veserv 11mo ago
  Your argument is lacking nuance, declaring that the criticism being levied here must be a simple binary. The specific error they are criticizing is extremely egregious, akin to builder declaring a house without a roof complete. “failing and deserving to be called a monkey” is a criticism being levied against a 0/100 level mistake, not a mere minor mistake as you are claiming. While it might be desirable to use less colorful language, it is frankly challenging to express the sheer level of grossly incompetent organizational ineptitude on display here in a reviewed and delivered product actively causing negative customer impact for literal years which is trivially fixed and yet has been ignored. Customers of Github should be infuriated that Github gleefully foists such utterly defective software upon them. It is hard to get that across in dispassionate writing.
  - patates 11mo ago
    Thanks for the thoughtful response. > Your argument is lacking nuance, declaring that the criticism being levied here must be a simple binary. That isn't my argument. I am arguing against the idea that there is an "objective" threshold of failure where, once crossed, it becomes acceptable to call people names. > Customers of Github should be infuriated that Github gleefully foists such utterly defective software upon them. It is hard to get that across in dispassionate writing. See, while it has its bugs, I don't see a major problem with GitHub as a software product (setting aside the monopoly concerns). I encourage passionate discussion, but calling people names doesn't communicate passion; it communicates impatience. It suggests you don't have the patience to actually make a case for something you're supposedly passionate about, so you're choosing a shorter, more aggressive form instead.
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oaiey 11mo ago
Not everyone is that robust. People get hurt over things like that. Not everyone is a wizard who does not give a fuck and does not need to care. These are people for God's sake. Empathy!
- zwnow 11mo ago
  If people get hurt over that they need to take some courses on building confidence...
  - brabel 11mo ago
    Right, those black people who get offended by being called that just need confidence, right? Those LGBT are so sensitive and can’t handle the colorful names we call them! Imagine that. This kind of comment shows how HN commenters can be so incredibly hateful while thinking they are righteous, which is the worst kind of people, it’s the atitude that leads to the most terrible policies and behavior ever seen on this planet.
    - zwnow 11mo ago
      Or you grow up and see these kinda things within the right context and brush off whats easy to brush off. Obvious racial slurs or discriminating insults towards a whole community is obviously something different. But you sound like the type of person to cancel a comedian over a joke.
  - peterspath 11mo ago
    People indeed need a thicker skin
- majkinetor 11mo ago
  Treating grown up people like little kids is a major problem. If that was a stressor which requires defensive actions such as this one, what are you good for in life?
- ImHereToVote 11mo ago
  Feeling empathy for their pathetic fragile existence doesn't mean you sympathise with said fragility.
_2d30 11mo ago
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I think it's a breath of fresh air. Don't want to be called out like this then stop fucking up.

petersellers 11mo ago

I'm sure getting called a monkey will stop them from ever making a mistake again.

teo_zero 11mo ago
If this was true, teachers and trainers would have the easiest job in the world: just insulting their pupils would stop them from failing an exam, race or whatever again.
- ternaryoperator 11mo ago
  The comment is clearly sarcasm.

patates 11mo ago

I could try to explain that most jobs are way more nuanced than just 'failing and deserving to be called a monkey' or 'not failing.' Or, I could just call you names for not seeing that, you could call me names back, and we can keep doing this forever.

Veserv 11mo ago
Your argument is lacking nuance, declaring that the criticism being levied here must be a simple binary. The specific error they are criticizing is extremely egregious, akin to builder declaring a house without a roof complete. “failing and deserving to be called a monkey” is a criticism being levied against a 0/100 level mistake, not a mere minor mistake as you are claiming. While it might be desirable to use less colorful language, it is frankly challenging to express the sheer level of grossly incompetent organizational ineptitude on display here in a reviewed and delivered product actively causing negative customer impact for literal years which is trivially fixed and yet has been ignored. Customers of Github should be infuriated that Github gleefully foists such utterly defective software upon them. It is hard to get that across in dispassionate writing.
- patates 11mo ago
  Thanks for the thoughtful response. > Your argument is lacking nuance, declaring that the criticism being levied here must be a simple binary. That isn't my argument. I am arguing against the idea that there is an "objective" threshold of failure where, once crossed, it becomes acceptable to call people names. > Customers of Github should be infuriated that Github gleefully foists such utterly defective software upon them. It is hard to get that across in dispassionate writing. See, while it has its bugs, I don't see a major problem with GitHub as a software product (setting aside the monopoly concerns). I encourage passionate discussion, but calling people names doesn't communicate passion; it communicates impatience. It suggests you don't have the patience to actually make a case for something you're supposedly passionate about, so you're choosing a shorter, more aggressive form instead.

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oaiey 11mo ago

Not everyone is that robust. People get hurt over things like that. Not everyone is a wizard who does not give a fuck and does not need to care. These are people for God's sake. Empathy!

zwnow 11mo ago
If people get hurt over that they need to take some courses on building confidence...
- brabel 11mo ago
  Right, those black people who get offended by being called that just need confidence, right? Those LGBT are so sensitive and can’t handle the colorful names we call them! Imagine that. This kind of comment shows how HN commenters can be so incredibly hateful while thinking they are righteous, which is the worst kind of people, it’s the atitude that leads to the most terrible policies and behavior ever seen on this planet.
  - zwnow 11mo ago
    Or you grow up and see these kinda things within the right context and brush off whats easy to brush off. Obvious racial slurs or discriminating insults towards a whole community is obviously something different. But you sound like the type of person to cancel a comedian over a joke.
- peterspath 11mo ago
  People indeed need a thicker skin
majkinetor 11mo ago
Treating grown up people like little kids is a major problem. If that was a stressor which requires defensive actions such as this one, what are you good for in life?
ImHereToVote 11mo ago
Feeling empathy for their pathetic fragile existence doesn't mean you sympathise with said fragility.

_2d30 11mo ago

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