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English version https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/05/criminalization-of-encryption-the-8-december-case/ https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/05/crimina

• anigbrowl 11mo ago
  I don't find any of this persuasive because nowhere does it articulate who or how the defendants came to be accused of anything in the first place. I can not make my mind about how to feel when the context is removed, even if I think the state's argument is entirely specious.
  • yorwba 11mo ago
    I think La Quadrature du Net don't consider it relevant whether the accused are guilty or not; they don't want encrypted communication to ever be included in the evidence against someone. I agree that that's a bit too much binary thinking, and a collection of separate actions that would be legal on their own can nonetheless add up to evidence of a crime when taken together.
  • ghssds 11mo ago
    Another pov: https://soutienauxinculpeesdu8decembre.noblogs.org/post/2021/04/02/le-monde-diplomatique-combattre-les-djihadistes-un-crime/ https://soutienauxinculpeesdu8decembre.noblogs.org/post/2021...
    • anigbrowl 11mo ago
      Thank you, this was far more informative. Because political advocacy is a passionate business, people sometimes forget basic tents of communication and end up publishing jeremiads that are only comprehensible to people who already agree with them, while failing to convert anyone else to their cause. I quite agree about the overreach of the French state here, but on first encounter I couldn't make head or tail of what their passionate opponents were arguing about.