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All privacy-respecting browsers block 3rd party cookies by default now, which prevents that kind of tracking. There's still other forms of fingerprinting they c

by robhlt 10mo ago

All privacy-respecting browsers block 3rd party cookies by default now, which prevents that kind of tracking. There's still other forms of fingerprinting they can use, but those can be used in apps as well.

raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
What are these other forms that apps can use?
- kalleboo 10mo ago
  A combination of data about your browser/os/hardware/locale configuration https://amiunique.org https://amiunique.org
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  - raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
    You realize you just made my point for me that websites can track you more easily than apps… FWIW: the website completely errored out on my iPhone until I turned my ad blocker off in Safari.
    - kalleboo 10mo ago
      Whoops, I misread your post, my bad. But I guess apps can run web views that have access to all the same fingerprinting as a standalone browser, minus any ad-blocking plugins (on iOS at least)
    - doctor_radium 10mo ago
      With a browser, you have the ability to block cookies, block whole hosts/domains, alter DOM content, alter tracking URL's, and (often) disable low level features you don't like. With apps, not so much.
      - raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
        And still waiting for examples of how apps can track you better. If the server wants to track you by your originating IP, all of the client side blocking will do nothing
        LargoLasskhyfv 10mo ago
        VPN, TOR...
        raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
        And once you install a VPN on your phone it also keeps apps from revealing your IP address.
        ranger_danger 10mo ago
        Some apps can/will detect that an OS-level VPN has been activated though, and refuse to work at all. Spectrum TV does this for example, as well as some banking and other types of apps.
        raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
        Yes and sites can also fairly reliably detect when a user is coming from a well known IP address block belonging to a VPN or VPS provider. It’s a built in feature of I know at least AWS https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2020/03/aws-waf-adds-anonymous-ip-list-for-aws-managed-rules/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2020/03/aws-waf-a...
        ranger_danger 10mo ago
        Assuming you are using a "well known IP address block belonging to a VPN or VPS provider", yes, but it is also possible to setup VPNs/proxies outside of well-known IP blocks.
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by robhlt 10mo ago

raw_anon_1111 10mo ago

What are these other forms that apps can use?

kalleboo 10mo ago
A combination of data about your browser/os/hardware/locale configuration https://amiunique.org https://amiunique.org
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- raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
  You realize you just made my point for me that websites can track you more easily than apps… FWIW: the website completely errored out on my iPhone until I turned my ad blocker off in Safari.
  - kalleboo 10mo ago
    Whoops, I misread your post, my bad. But I guess apps can run web views that have access to all the same fingerprinting as a standalone browser, minus any ad-blocking plugins (on iOS at least)
  - doctor_radium 10mo ago
    With a browser, you have the ability to block cookies, block whole hosts/domains, alter DOM content, alter tracking URL's, and (often) disable low level features you don't like. With apps, not so much.
    - raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
      And still waiting for examples of how apps can track you better. If the server wants to track you by your originating IP, all of the client side blocking will do nothing
      - LargoLasskhyfv 10mo ago
        VPN, TOR...
        raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
        And once you install a VPN on your phone it also keeps apps from revealing your IP address.
        ranger_danger 10mo ago
        Some apps can/will detect that an OS-level VPN has been activated though, and refuse to work at all. Spectrum TV does this for example, as well as some banking and other types of apps.
        raw_anon_1111 10mo ago
        Yes and sites can also fairly reliably detect when a user is coming from a well known IP address block belonging to a VPN or VPS provider. It’s a built in feature of I know at least AWS https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2020/03/aws-waf-adds-anonymous-ip-list-for-aws-managed-rules/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2020/03/aws-waf-a...
        ranger_danger 10mo ago
        Assuming you are using a "well known IP address block belonging to a VPN or VPS provider", yes, but it is also possible to setup VPNs/proxies outside of well-known IP blocks.
      - 10mo ago