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Its more than coupons. These apps track your location, usage and so on then sell this data to a 3rd party. Coupons don’t do that. Do you read full useragreement

by grugagag 11mo ago

Its more than coupons. These apps track your location, usage and so on then sell this data to a 3rd party. Coupons don’t do that. Do you read full useragreement you accept when installing apps? Most people wouldn’t understand the legalese in those. A coupon could still be an image you find online that can be scanned and that’s it. Apps are totally not necessary unless they squeeze something out of the user.

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
An app can’t track your location if you don’t give it permission.
- venturecruelty 11mo ago
  That is not true. https://www.wired.com/story/gravy-location-data-app-leak-rtb/ https://www.wired.com/story/gravy-location-data-app-leak-rtb...
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    With absolutely no details - how are these apps surreptitiously getting location data from your GPS without you giving them permission? If they are using your IP address to track you, a website can do that just as easily.
    - venturecruelty 11mo ago
      Here you go: https://www.kroll.com/en/publications/cyber/cti-gravy-analytics https://www.kroll.com/en/publications/cyber/cti-gravy-analyt... I'm not going to Google any further.
      - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
        The argument was that apps can surreptitiously gather information from you. The apps in question didn’t get your location data without you specifically allowing it. Websites can also ask you for your location. In the comment you replied to I asked > from your GPS without you giving them permission?
- dylan604 11mo ago
  That's a very naive look on the situation. There are plenty of websites that can explain how this is just not accurate better than I could attempt to summarize it. If web searching is not your thing, I'd assume a GPT could point you in the right direction
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- the_snooze 11mo ago
  Ad SDKs exploit OS bugs to get location data. These specific ones have since been patched, but historicaly they read ARP tables, EXIF geo tags, and colluded with other apps that legimately had location permissions to get that info. It wouldn't surprise me if there are other live exploits quietly being used today. https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity19/presentation/reardon https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity19/presentat...
  - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
    > We have responsibly disclosed our findings to Google and have received a bug bounty for our work Caring about your privacy and using an OS by an adtech company is kind of orthogonal…
    - xigoi 11mo ago
      Unfortunately the only other option is even worse.
crazygringo 11mo ago
So the McDonald's app knows I'm... at McDonald's when I use it? And that I'm using the app to order? That doesn't seem like I'm giving up much information. Considering I'm placing the order at that McDonald's anyways, and they know the addresses of their franchisees. Like I said, the same information is already revealed when I use a credit card. I'm not granting it permission to track my location when I'm not using the app, obviously.

raw_anon_1111 11mo ago

An app can’t track your location if you don’t give it permission.

venturecruelty 11mo ago
That is not true. https://www.wired.com/story/gravy-location-data-app-leak-rtb/ https://www.wired.com/story/gravy-location-data-app-leak-rtb...
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  With absolutely no details - how are these apps surreptitiously getting location data from your GPS without you giving them permission? If they are using your IP address to track you, a website can do that just as easily.
  - venturecruelty 11mo ago
    Here you go: https://www.kroll.com/en/publications/cyber/cti-gravy-analytics https://www.kroll.com/en/publications/cyber/cti-gravy-analyt... I'm not going to Google any further.
    - raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
      The argument was that apps can surreptitiously gather information from you. The apps in question didn’t get your location data without you specifically allowing it. Websites can also ask you for your location. In the comment you replied to I asked > from your GPS without you giving them permission?
dylan604 11mo ago
That's a very naive look on the situation. There are plenty of websites that can explain how this is just not accurate better than I could attempt to summarize it. If web searching is not your thing, I'd assume a GPT could point you in the right direction
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the_snooze 11mo ago
Ad SDKs exploit OS bugs to get location data. These specific ones have since been patched, but historicaly they read ARP tables, EXIF geo tags, and colluded with other apps that legimately had location permissions to get that info. It wouldn't surprise me if there are other live exploits quietly being used today. https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity19/presentation/reardon https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity19/presentat...
- raw_anon_1111 11mo ago
  > We have responsibly disclosed our findings to Google and have received a bug bounty for our work Caring about your privacy and using an OS by an adtech company is kind of orthogonal…
  - xigoi 11mo ago
    Unfortunately the only other option is even worse.

crazygringo 11mo ago

So the McDonald's app knows I'm... at McDonald's when I use it? And that I'm using the app to order? That doesn't seem like I'm giving up much information. Considering I'm placing the order at that McDonald's anyways, and they know the addresses of their franchisees. Like I said, the same information is already revealed when I use a credit card. I'm not granting it permission to track my location when I'm not using the app, obviously.