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It sometimes feels like hotels are taunting us: "we're behaving like a cartel, whaddaya gonna do? Regulate us!? We've already tricked you into thinking that's

by rolandog 11mo ago

It sometimes feels like hotels are taunting us: "we're behaving like a cartel, whaddaya gonna do? Regulate us!? We've already tricked you into thinking that's socialism!"

autoexec 11mo ago
It's a weird flex for a time when airbnb and vrbo have options all over the place.
- Nextgrid 11mo ago
  With hotels you're playing the lottery but there is generally a baseline consistent with the brand of the hotel. With those two you're also playing the lottery but there is no baseline. With a hotel, you're also generally paying when you check-in and can thus refuse a subpar room and argue with a real, mostly-reasonable person. With those two, you get charged before you even enter the place and any arguments will be with a bot or a call center drone in a third-world country pretending to be one.
  - yunwal 11mo ago
    > there is generally a baseline consistent Not having a bathroom with a door is an incredibly low baseline. I can only think of a single Airbnb that I’ve stayed in that’s been worse than that (The key to the Airbnb was missing and the host was inaccessible)
potato3732842 11mo ago
>whaddaya gonna do? Regulate us!? We've already tricked you into thinking that's socialism!" More like "I dare you, regulation will only further increase our moat"
- gpm 11mo ago
  I'm gonna go ahead and suggest that the "bathrooms must have doors" public health regulation is unlikely to increase any moats.
  - eru 11mo ago
    How does this have anything to do with 'public health'? And almost any regulation gives a (relative) advantage to the people who can afford the lawyers and bureaucrats to furnish the documentation to show that they are in compliance.
    - neutronicus 11mo ago
      The absence of a door strikes some people's sensibilities as mingling the capital-C Clean with the capital-U Unclean. Which, as I think you're hinting, is largely distinct from anybody's actual health
      - eru 11mo ago
        Yes, that's what I think as well. I'm all in favour of opaque bathroom doors (and none of these stupid vertical slits American have between their public bathroom doors and the walls). But I wouldn't want to pretend it's about hygiene or health.
    - gpm 11mo ago
      Fecal particles are well documented as a vector for disease transmission, particularly an issue when travelling with someone who is sick but also just from the long term distribution of them into the room. Going from no regulation to one does carry some of what you suggest, but there are already regulations about tons of things here (fire alarms, exits, building codes, etc) adding one more does not increase the need for lawyers and documentation.

It sometimes feels like hotels are taunting us: "we're behaving like a cartel, whaddaya gonna do? Regulate us!? We've already tricked you into thinking that's socialism!"

autoexec 11mo ago

It's a weird flex for a time when airbnb and vrbo have options all over the place.

Nextgrid 11mo ago
With hotels you're playing the lottery but there is generally a baseline consistent with the brand of the hotel. With those two you're also playing the lottery but there is no baseline. With a hotel, you're also generally paying when you check-in and can thus refuse a subpar room and argue with a real, mostly-reasonable person. With those two, you get charged before you even enter the place and any arguments will be with a bot or a call center drone in a third-world country pretending to be one.
- yunwal 11mo ago
  > there is generally a baseline consistent Not having a bathroom with a door is an incredibly low baseline. I can only think of a single Airbnb that I’ve stayed in that’s been worse than that (The key to the Airbnb was missing and the host was inaccessible)

potato3732842 11mo ago

>whaddaya gonna do? Regulate us!? We've already tricked you into thinking that's socialism!" More like "I dare you, regulation will only further increase our moat"

gpm 11mo ago
I'm gonna go ahead and suggest that the "bathrooms must have doors" public health regulation is unlikely to increase any moats.
- eru 11mo ago
  How does this have anything to do with 'public health'? And almost any regulation gives a (relative) advantage to the people who can afford the lawyers and bureaucrats to furnish the documentation to show that they are in compliance.
  - neutronicus 11mo ago
    The absence of a door strikes some people's sensibilities as mingling the capital-C Clean with the capital-U Unclean. Which, as I think you're hinting, is largely distinct from anybody's actual health
    - eru 11mo ago
      Yes, that's what I think as well. I'm all in favour of opaque bathroom doors (and none of these stupid vertical slits American have between their public bathroom doors and the walls). But I wouldn't want to pretend it's about hygiene or health.
  - gpm 11mo ago
    Fecal particles are well documented as a vector for disease transmission, particularly an issue when travelling with someone who is sick but also just from the long term distribution of them into the room. Going from no regulation to one does carry some of what you suggest, but there are already regulations about tons of things here (fire alarms, exits, building codes, etc) adding one more does not increase the need for lawyers and documentation.