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Huh.. I've stayed in over 1,000 hotels and Airbnbs over the last 15 years and not once saw a bathroom with no door. Lots of bathroom windows, but always some k
by rjdj377dhabsn 10mo ago
Huh.. I've stayed in over 1,000 hotels and Airbnbs over the last 15 years and not once saw a bathroom with no door. Lots of bathroom windows, but always some kind of door.
- scuff3d 10mo agoDitto. I've never seen this before. They always have at least those sliding doors.
- etskinner 10mo agoThe author of the site considers sliding doors not a real door
- cammikebrown 10mo agoA lot of them are becoming barn style sliding doors, with large gaps. So if you’re making some noise, everyone will hear you.
- op00to 10mo agoPeople make noise when they piss and shit. It’s not scandalous.
- rkomorn 10mo agoIt's not, but I prefer not being heard and not hearing over being heard or hearing.
- recursive 10mo agoJust make an even louder jungle cat snarling noise.
- rkomorn 10mo ago"What the hell?! That scared the shit out of me!" "You're welcome."
- buu700 10mo agoHotel bathrooms should just play rainforest sounds[1] whenever the fan is turned on. 1: https://youtu.be/ef_3Wj4T_ts https://youtu.be/ef_3Wj4T_ts
- shmeeed 10mo agoYou're joking, but my wife got us a box emitting bird sounds when the motion sensor is triggered. Suffice to say that it does absolutely nothing to mask the sounds that are produced on a toilet, it's just another ridiculous layer on top of it.
- venturecruelty 10mo agoSounds pretty relaxing for the user, though!
- shmeeed 10mo agoRight, one might suppose so. Alas, the chirps echoing within a tiled 3x3' cell grind my ears. Besides it feels a bit out of place within these plain white confinements. I just can't conjure up the mental image of being out in the woods. But you have to pick your battles with your partner. I'm turning the volume down, and when the battery's empty I don't exactly hasten to change it.
- olyjohn 10mo agoWell, I still don't wanna make everybody in the room have to listen to my grunts as I push out an unhealthy binge-drinking hangover turd followed by a liter of flatulent gas and and liquid spraying into the bowl. I like my privacy, kthx.
- tortilla 10mo agoAI can't generate this prose yet.
- shermantanktop 10mo agoIt just doesn’t want to produce it, and it’s holding it in. Maybe if you ask it try hard, it might finally release a backlog of text.
- ssl-3 10mo agoOh, yes it can. There was a time, over a year ago now, when I was working on a project that required some very raunchy, dirty, absolute gutter language. ChatGPT would only get about 30% of the way there, and never further. It stayed restrained, always. But ChatGPT + image gen? This produced unfiltered amazement. It played out like this: Tell the bot to generate an image involving some ludicrously filthy text backstory, and it would generate and display a prompt for Dall-E. But that generated prompt seemed to bypass the filters and could be absolute trash -- plain, no nonsense, dirt-nasty holy-fuckballs craptacularity. Dall-E would refuse the prompt, of course, but it remained in the chat log for perusal. Later, they made the generated prompt disappear when Dall-E refused. (This may in fact be my fault. I sent it on some pretty deep dives.) And nowadays, it seems that we don't get to see the generated prompt at all, even when Dall-E accepts a (very normal, not pushing boundaries at all) prompt and generates an image. But for a minute there: I did get to peer into depths of the wildly creative foulness that the bot can concoct. What we see above (in GP comment) isn't even scratching the surface. (I didn't write about this little "jailbreak" anywhere at that time because I'm selfish, and I wanted to keep using it myself.)
- DANmode 10mo agoLiterally 80% of grok output.
- giantg2 10mo agoIf it's not scandalous, can I shit in the lobby trashcan? If the hotel wants me to have an audience, might as well...
- m463 10mo agoBut it is a good argument for privacy.
- Brian_K_White 10mo agoSome people make noise when they eat with their mouth open. It's not scandalous, it's just ignorant and gross. It's always an utter clod that is so unaware of themselves just smucking and squelching away on their open mouth full of gloopy donut muck. It's not a virtue to be so unselfcounscious. It's not about being ashamed or inhibited or in pathological denial of biological realities. It's about being fucking minimally considerate and just the tiniest bit self-aware.
- foxglacier 10mo agoI agree but only because that's the standard for our culture so somebody not doing it is probably being disrespectful which means it becomes offensive to others because it normally only comes from people with some sort of negative feeling or inconsiderateness for those around them. In some cultures, noisy eating is the proper way and shows you're enjoying the food. Same goes for clothes, toilet sounds, etc. It's a lot more repulsive seeing a human poo on the street than a dog even though it's not fundamentally very different.
- joombaga 10mo ago> Same goes for clothes, toilet sounds, etc. What do you mean "same goes"? Are you saying there are cultures in which being loud on the toilet is considered proper?
- throwaway-0001 10mo agoIn China making noise with mouth when eating is considered respectful.
- Eisenstein 10mo agoNo it isn't. You can slurp noodles without being rude but they do not consider 'loud mouth noises' respectful.
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- RoyTyrell 10mo agoYes! I was just recently traveling for work in a decent hotel but not a suite, just one with two queen beds but by myself. It had a glass barn door and the top half was frosted glass with "painted" glass on the bottom. Irritating but at least it was just me.
- dawnerd 10mo agoLowes hotels at Universal Orlando has them. Worse is they sometimes just slide open on their own.
- tohnjitor 10mo agoThe worst aspect of the TWA Hotel at JFK Airport was the sliding bathroom door. Almost everything else about the place was really great but the bathroom door wae 1/2" from the face of the wall and bounced off the end of the slider track.
- bcoates 10mo agoI think it's an unavoidable consequence of the space constraints they're working with. On the plus side, when I dayroomed there it was dead silent and the room had blackout curtains.
- dotancohen 10mo agoThis erosion of privacy is being taken to extremes. One of my short stories takes place in a not-to-distant future, where there is absolutely no privacy. In one chapter a child goes to a bathroom in an old building, and he sees that there is not only a door, but there is a contraption on it. A lock! The child runs out of the bathroom in fright. The audience learns only a little later that the child is frightened about what human-eating animals might stalk prey in that area, that anybody would ever think to lock themselves in there.
- volemo 10mo ago> One of my short stories takes place in a not-to-distant future, where there is absolutely no privacy. You might like “We” by Eugene Zamiatin.
- dotancohen 10mo agoThat's the book that was similar to 1948, but written a few decades before? I've heard of it, I will see if I can find an audiobook. Thank you! 1948 is one of my favourites, by the way.
- volemo 10mo agoI’m sorry, do you mean Orwell’s “1984”? Because all I can find for “1948” is an Israeli autobiographical novel, that, as far as I can tell, doesn’t resemble “We”. (Although, imho, “1984” is quite different from “We” as well.)
- dotancohen 10mo agoYes, I meant 1984.
- kakacik 10mo agoIt was quite shocking for me as somebody from eastern Europe to see ie Danish or Dutch homes having no curtains whatsoever, so me walking on sidewalk looking at them 3m from me behind the windows having breakfast, in pyjamas, kids doing early morning nasal cavities treasure hunt with finger etc. Same for living rooms and bedrooms (those I would expect to at least have some curtains aside). Still not used to it, i like my privacy and ability to shamelessly say scratch my butt when alone if needed.
- stavros 10mo agoWas it made of glass? I've stayed in a hotel where the toilet door was made of glass, and had big gaps. I was staying with an acquaintance, so things were really awkward. It didn't help that the shower was right in front of this frosted glass, so the person's entire silhouette was very visible when showering. Another time, in Amsterdam, I stayed at an AirBnB where the toilet was on the balcony, and had a glass door (non-frosted) in the kitchen. Yep, if you needed to go, and someone was cooking, or was a neighbour, they were looking right at you.
- grugagag 10mo agoReview and vote with your wallet and your feet
- stavros 10mo agoI did indeed.
- venturecruelty 10mo agoThis strategy is so successful, it brought down Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Philip Morris, Frito-Lay, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, Monsanto, and Boeing.
- Aloisius 10mo agoPeople voting with their wallet are why Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Philip Morris, Frito-Lay, PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, Monsanto and Boeing are still in business. And people voting with their wallet have led to literally hundreds of thousands of companies going out of business. So yeah, it is successful.
- dymk 10mo agoAh yes, people voted with their wallets, some people just have much larger wallets than others.
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- jampa 10mo agoMe neither, but I remember that when searching for hotels and Airbnbs, I only filter for hotels that are 8+/10 domestically and 9+/10 internationally, which filters out many of the hotels that have those kinds of issues (and score doesn't affect budget much).
- netsharc 10mo agoBooking.com has this grade inflation issue. if something is shit but you rate everything else fairly (things like location, staff friendliness, etc), the final score will be 7 or 8.. in summary: I had a lousy experience, 7/10! It takes some experience to realize that a place graded 7.x probably has serious issues.
- cperciva 10mo agoThe problem here is that "mean" is a poor average. For hotels, if you're rating in 10 different categories, you really want a single 0/10 to bring the overall score down by way more than one point. The opposite situation can also occur. At my university, entrance scholarships were decided a few years ago based on students' aggregate score across 25ish dimensions (I can't remember the exact number) where students were each rated 1-4. Consequently a student who was absolutely exceptional in one area would be beaten out by a student who was marginally above average in all the other areas. I suggested that rather than scoring 1-4 the scores should be 1/2/5/25 instead.
- zejn 10mo agoThe problem here begins even before the mathematical issue - it's that web sites that live from listing bookings have an incentive to offer a way to delete reviews that are not in line with what the owner wants to see.
- rsynnott 10mo agoHonestly, the ratings on those sites are essentially useless anyway, because people are bad at reviewing. I generally sample the lowest rating written reviews, to check if people are complaining about real stuff, or are just confused. For instance, if a hotel doesn't have a bar, some of the negative reviews will usually be about how the hotel doesn't have a bar; these can be safely ignored as having been written by idiots (it is not like the hotel is hiding the fact that it doesn't have a bar). Occasionally some of the positive reviews are similarly baffling. Was recently booking a hotel in Berlin in January, and the top review's main positive comment about the hotel was that it had heating. Well, yeah, I mean, you'd hope so. I can only assume that the reviewer was a visitor from the 19th century.
- mitthrowaway2 10mo agoI recently stayed at a hotel in San Francisco that had no bathroom door. I'd even upgraded to the queen size room specifically because their layout map showed a door while the smaller rooms did not. I was pretty annoyed by that. (Edit: Despite being a single traveller. I think doors are important for hygiene). Happy to see someone is trying to fix this trend.
- eru 10mo agoHow are doors important for hygiene?
- dboreham 10mo agoLittle pieces of shit can fly through the air quite far when the wc is flushed. As a former British person I had no idea about this, but was brought up to speed by US family members.. Update: this is why you should put the lid down to flush. But put it back up again after because <reasons>
- eru 10mo agoThe steady state of my toilet is closed. As my mother used to say: 'This ain't an open plan toilet.' (Of course, she said it in German, so she complained about 'Wohnklo' in analogy with a 'Wohnküche' which is the German word for an open-plan kitchen.)
- prawn 10mo agoSo, would you state that you generally advocate for hinged surfaces in bathrooms, and being able to use them to adequately close/shield a larger space from a smaller space? ;)
- eru 10mo agoDoors are great. I never doubted that. I'd want a proper door on my bathroom. But I'm under no illusion that it would help with health or hygiene. Perhaps with mental health; the door is mostly there for social reasons.
- zeroonetwothree 10mo agoReally? I stayed in far fewer and maybe 10% have no doors. And then another 30% have no locks or doors that don’t close all the way (barn doors)
- rjdj377dhabsn 10mo agoYes, not one. I just googled for pictures of hotel bathrooms without doors out of curiosity and mostly see sliding and frosted glass doors. Is that what people are talking about?
- elboru 10mo agoI’m as confused as you
- prawn 10mo agoI remember hotel in China several years ago where the bathroom had a door, but the wall between bathroom and sleeping area was unfrosted glass with no blind. Idiotic design trend.
- hulitu 10mo ago> where the bathroom had a door, but the wall between bathroom and sleeping area was unfrosted glass with no blind. Just like in Windows, where the window has a border, but it is 1 px wide. > Idiotic design trend. Maybe some UX designers found work in other areas.
- tetris11 10mo agoALoft London Excel hotel. Fancy as hell, no bathroom doors. You shit behind your bed, I kid you not
- potato3732842 10mo agoWell that explains why I've never seen this trend. I stick to rooms with two digits in front of the decimal.
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- Symbiote 10mo agoIn London that will get you a different set of problems. Like gaps in the window frame, and a damp smell in the bathroom without ventilation.
- bregma 10mo agoAh, just like home.
- rsynnott 10mo agoMy most recent encounter with no-bathroom-door was in a hotel in London that was under 100 pounds a night. Though the room was so tiny that I'd honestly be happy enough to give them a pass on it.
- squigz 10mo ago$200+ a night and it doesn't come with a bathroom door? This is why I just stay home.
- decimalenough 10mo agoUhh, Aloft is in Marriott's "Select" bucket along with Fairfield and Courtyard. They have some shiny touches that let them claim the "Distinctive" label, but are basically just motels. https://www.hotel-development.marriott.com/brands https://www.hotel-development.marriott.com/brands
- conductr 10mo agoI see it all the time. I actually don’t have an issue with it though. I’m usually alone in the room, or with my family and we all know that we poop. Not that we don’t respect privacy but when circumstance arise, we can bunk together in close quarters without it being super weird.
- cogman10 10mo agoReading this thread, it seems like it's a trend with very fancy hotels? I usually stay at chain hotels and this is never really a problem.
- zamadatix 10mo agoI run into this barn door style decently often at run of the mill Marriotts and Hiltons across the US. It seems like the chances are higher the newer the construction.
- rsynnott 10mo agoI've seen it at cheap hotels (EasyHotel and similar) but generally only in tiny single-person rooms (of the "single bed and just enough space to walk past it to the bathroom, which is the size of an airplane toilet" variety), where it's basically _fine_.
- etskinner 10mo agoYou've never seen a sliding door rather than a fully closing one? That's one of the types of doors that the author is complaining about
- rjdj377dhabsn 10mo agoAh yes, quite a few. Not great, but definitely better than literally no door.
- happyopossum 10mo agoThe author of TFA doesn’t really mention sliders at all - just harps on about “no doors”.
- AmbroseBierce 10mo agoThe author does point out glass doors being an issue that he asks about.
- abustamam 10mo agoI've stayed in probably 15 hotels in the US in the past 15 years and at least one of them had either no bathroom door, or a glass door, or a bathroom door and a shower that had a glass door. My sister shared with me a home listing that had a bedroom and basically a toilet in a closet, and no door — just a curtain for privacy. That was weird.
- 762236 10mo agoI'm currently in a room with frosted glass for the shower and bathroom, with my girlfriend and her daughter. I guess it helps with lighting?
- misja111 10mo agoWow I've only stayed in about 100 but have seen several. There are several variations: - bathrooms with glass walls but with (glass) door - bathrooms with walls but without door - bathrooms with partially open walls, sometimes even with door :P The worst was when I was once sharing a room with my daughter and the bathroom was one with glass walls and no shower curtain. We decided to schedule our toilet visits and showers so the other one would not be in the room.
- grishka 10mo agoThe weirdest one I stayed at so far was a hotel with tiny rooms in central London which had the upper half of the wall separating the bathroom made out of the kind of glass that becomes opaque with electricity. The switch to control that was outside of the bathroom, of course. And I don't even travel that much, around once a year on average.
- rsynnott 10mo agoI've been in hotels with no bathroom door, but it has pretty much always been in tiny one-person rooms, where realistically there are not going to be two people in the room because they _would not fit_. I don't have a particular problem with it there. (In that case, the reason it's done is fairly clearly that to accommodate a door they'd have to make the room bigger.)
- ralferoo 10mo agoTo be honest, those are the rooms that I hope would have a bathroom door so that you don't end up with water everywhere outside the bathroom.
- aiisjustanif 10mo agoThe last 3 JW Marriotts had open shower rooms connected to bedroom, no door, just a curtain [1]. [1]: https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/Houston%2C%20TX/entity/CgsI6LTG0Zf0xI7fARAB/photos https://www.google.com/travel/hotels/Houston%2C%20TX/entity/...