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This is dumb. Websites have many more ways to track you across websites than apps have to track you if you don’t explicitly give them unnecessary permissions.

lanfeust6 1y ago
Native apps have privileged access to far more personal data on your device. A website has, what, cookies and fingerprinting? You can already mitigate this on Firefox but even if not, it isn't in the same league
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  Have you looked at all of the APIs that are part of the standard? These are from the Firefox website Of course it also knows your device, operating system version, screen resolution, phone orientation, etc. Not to mention that websites can track you across other websites. What information do you think apps have without your permissions that websites don’t? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Geolocation_API/Using_the_Geolocation_API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Geolocation... https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Accelerometer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Acceleromet... https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/getBattery https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/g... https://www.w3schools.com/tags/av_prop_volume.asp https://www.w3schools.com/tags/av_prop_volume.asp
  - lanfeust6 1y ago
    Geolocation sharing can be disabled as reflected in your source. Everything else you linked to is trivial, but notwithstanding, it all relies on JS which, as I already said, can be disabled. Oh, and many aren't even available in Firefox: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Battery_Status_API#browser_compatibility https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Battery_Sta... > What information do you think apps have without your permissions that websites don’t? Your actual personal information. Access to photos, messages, metadata (name, address, contacts, notes, metadata, habits).
    - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
      And Geolocation can also be blocked by your OS and is opt in. Access to photos is also opt in per app as is contacts An app does not have permission to your name, address, contacts unless you explicitly allow it And mobile apps don’t have access to your notes or any “habits” outside of when you use the app. And “disabling JavaScript” in 2025 makes most websites unusable.
everdrive 1y ago
The fact that apps have permissions settings has lulled you into a false sense of confidence.
- raw_anon_1111 1y ago
  You realize that the same OS settings also are used to enable websites to read your GPS, camera and microphone? If you don’t trust your operating system to follow your instructions when using an app, then why do you trust the same operating system with your browser? Do you have any evidence to support your conspiracy theory?
  - everdrive 1y ago
    This was one such example: https://medium.com/@infinityTime/facebooks-hidden-android-tracking-a-new-loophole-exposed-a4d548bd5656 https://medium.com/@infinityTime/facebooks-hidden-android-tr...
    - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
      Then don’t use Android??? If you care about your privacy why would you use a phone with an OS created by an adtech company?
      - dvrj101 1y ago
        why would adtech companies pay apple millions to keep their app as default option if it was not for getting data . Same thing but hey it requires common sense.
        raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        So you don’t see the difference in using Google as your default search engine where Google can only track you when you are searching on their website and having them control your entire OS?
      - 1y ago

lanfeust6 1y ago

Native apps have privileged access to far more personal data on your device. A website has, what, cookies and fingerprinting? You can already mitigate this on Firefox but even if not, it isn't in the same league

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
Have you looked at all of the APIs that are part of the standard? These are from the Firefox website Of course it also knows your device, operating system version, screen resolution, phone orientation, etc. Not to mention that websites can track you across other websites. What information do you think apps have without your permissions that websites don’t? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Geolocation_API/Using_the_Geolocation_API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Geolocation... https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Accelerometer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Acceleromet... https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/getBattery https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Navigator/g... https://www.w3schools.com/tags/av_prop_volume.asp https://www.w3schools.com/tags/av_prop_volume.asp
- lanfeust6 1y ago
  Geolocation sharing can be disabled as reflected in your source. Everything else you linked to is trivial, but notwithstanding, it all relies on JS which, as I already said, can be disabled. Oh, and many aren't even available in Firefox: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Battery_Status_API#browser_compatibility https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Battery_Sta... > What information do you think apps have without your permissions that websites don’t? Your actual personal information. Access to photos, messages, metadata (name, address, contacts, notes, metadata, habits).
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    And Geolocation can also be blocked by your OS and is opt in. Access to photos is also opt in per app as is contacts An app does not have permission to your name, address, contacts unless you explicitly allow it And mobile apps don’t have access to your notes or any “habits” outside of when you use the app. And “disabling JavaScript” in 2025 makes most websites unusable.

everdrive 1y ago

The fact that apps have permissions settings has lulled you into a false sense of confidence.

raw_anon_1111 1y ago
You realize that the same OS settings also are used to enable websites to read your GPS, camera and microphone? If you don’t trust your operating system to follow your instructions when using an app, then why do you trust the same operating system with your browser? Do you have any evidence to support your conspiracy theory?
- everdrive 1y ago
  This was one such example: https://medium.com/@infinityTime/facebooks-hidden-android-tracking-a-new-loophole-exposed-a4d548bd5656 https://medium.com/@infinityTime/facebooks-hidden-android-tr...
  - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
    Then don’t use Android??? If you care about your privacy why would you use a phone with an OS created by an adtech company?
    - dvrj101 1y ago
      why would adtech companies pay apple millions to keep their app as default option if it was not for getting data . Same thing but hey it requires common sense.
      - raw_anon_1111 1y ago
        So you don’t see the difference in using Google as your default search engine where Google can only track you when you are searching on their website and having them control your entire OS?
    - 1y ago