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I expected that this was because China use DDR5 in their new AI chips (Due to not having access to (enough) HBM)
by tmikaeld 11mo ago
I expected that this was because China use DDR5 in their new AI chips (Due to not having access to (enough) HBM)
- vlovich123 11mo agoHBM is independent of the DDR revision being used. HBM how the DRAM attaches to the chip. Really not sure what you’re trying to say.
- tmikaeld 11mo agoHBM stacks multiple DRAM dies vertically on top of each other (typically 4-12 layers). It’s very different from DDR, especially during manufacturing because it has to be integrated with custom chips. Afaik, this isn’t available to Chinese foundries.. yet. Thus, they have DDR available. Specifically, theyre using LPDDR5 so far.
- vlovich123 11mo agoBut it’s still the same dies- the shortage is in the dies not the packaging, no?
- tmikaeld 10mo agoIt’s difficult to integrate as HBM and the density is very different. China wouldnt select 30x slower bandwith if they had a choice.